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A level 4 (examinor) CSIA instructor will automatically make a good development racing coach (T/F?)

post #1 of 7
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I just want to throw in a discussion I had with my club president.

He is shure that this level 4 guy would make the best head coach for the development level club.

I disagreed with him.


What's your point of view ?











Dad
post #2 of 7
I'd say it is highly dependent on the individual's background in racing. As I understand it, CSIA requires a certain level of CSCF certification in order to get to a L4 - that doesn't necessarily make him a master race coach. What other background or professional connections does he have that make him a good or bad fit for the head coach position? I'd also look at what he intends to teach and how he intends to develop skiers (basically what fundamentals is he teaching, etc.). I've met one CSIA L4 guy who is really good, and I think he could make an excellent full-time race coach, but I believe he has a strong background in racing and makes sure that he stays current with what is really happening at the national team level... I don't think anyone here can give you a yes or no answer here, but we can probably give you things to look for so you can make a decision.
post #3 of 7
Being a talented instructor does not make you a good race coach.  Your kids will probably become better skiers, not necessarily better racers.

If the guy has the racing background to go with it it is another story though.
post #4 of 7
CSIA Level 4 used to require CSCF Level 2 as a prerequisite.  However, many CSIA 4s would complete CSCF 2 without actually working as a coach, so the CSIA 4 certification on its own wouldn't necessarily be an automatic indicator of success in a head coach position.

Current prerequisites for CSIA 4 include CSCF DL (Trained) or a couple of other alternatives, so the race exposure is potentially even less with the newest Level 4s.

If the CSIA 4 is also CSCF 3 coach, that's a much better indication of the background and experience that will be desirable in a coaching role.

The other side of this is that development level racers (e.g. up to K1 level - 11/12 years old) are still learning how to ski well, and a CSIA 4 can offer a lot in that area.  Most CSIA 4s will also be pretty good at program management in general.  For a head coach, this can be as important as actual coaching experience, and if the head coach has strong race-oriented coaches who are doing most of the direct work with the athletes, it could be a good combination.

Working as a coach, the CSIA 4 will have to meet CSCF/ACA licensing requirements, so that could also help a bit with building up the race environment experience.
post #5 of 7
Personality, communication, and motivation skills are also very important for coaches - much more so than for instructors in my opinion. Hopefully there will be an interview process to make sure these "less tangible" needs are there vs just hiring based on resume?  

Elsbeth
post #6 of 7
My opinion is that for a "head coach" you would want some actual race experience. I know several L3 and L4's who have never been near a race course. It's a question of technical vs tactical. You need to be able to balance both. A fast (i.e. racer) isn't always the best (i.e. technical) and vice versa. Most of those on the instructor side of the equation tend to focus on be being technical. A good technical coach is a great asset to a club, but if the long term goal is to take the development to competitive then you need someone with the tactical background as well.
post #7 of 7
What will you expect the "head coach" to do?  Will they be actively involved in setting technical goals or is the position more administrative?
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