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Tipping etiquette

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Sorry if this is the wrong forum, but I thought it would fit in with the "ski instruction" theme..... For a multi-day private lesson with the same instructor, should one tip at the end of each day, or at the end of the multi-day period?
post #2 of 17
End of the period. Half of your gross yearly salary.
post #3 of 17
Good grief, I thought we'd already covered tipping ad nauseum, but this has not been covered. Realize that there are opinions all over the map on this topic. BTW - this is the right forum.

My 2 cents is that there is nothing wrong with tipping each day. However, there are many guests who choose to present one large tip at the end of the multi day experience. I've heard of one pro at Deer Valley who got the keys to a new pickup at the end of his lesson. I've also heard from another pro who has a regular client from Mexico who buys his family all new gear every year and tips the pro with all of the gear at the end of the week. The pro is very happy to "dispose" of the gear at a decent price. I know of many pros who have done multi day privates away from their home resorts where the tip has been arranged up front as all expenses paid. There are many different ways to express your appreciation for good service and results. Choose what fits your budget and your relationship with the pro.
post #4 of 17
 How about tipping for a professional course? E.g. your psia-2 or psia-3?
post #5 of 17
For PSIA exams tip before hand.  Your odds of passing will go way up. 

Be sure you tip all the examiners equally though.
post #6 of 17
 Doh! That's what I've been doing wrong!
post #7 of 17
 Hm.  The keys-to-the-new-pickup stratum is clearly beyond mine.  I suppose they flew to the lesson in the family Gulfstream.
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by Stranger View Post

For PSIA exams tip before hand.  Your odds of passing will go way up. 

Be sure you tip all the examiners equally though.

har har  but really... I'm curious. The best lessons I've ever received have been part of a certification pathway. Most likely this is because the instructors have a vested interest in bringing your skiing up to the standards required by the national body. Consequently, I feel most examiners during a course put more effort into teaching and developing their students than a regular ski instructor in a private or semi-private session without measured targets (e.g. in CSIA level 1, your skiing needs to meet the "acquisition" level... no such requirement in a private or semi-private lesson). So... do these instructors deserve a tip? Or would a tip be inappropriate as these courses are for professional development? What do other ski professionals do at the end of a certification course?
post #9 of 17
Dr. Skinny,

You're already way ahead of most skiers simply by planning to tip your instructor.  I always tip at the end of multi-day instruction.  Once you set a daily rate, it looks funny to change it even though your experience may change.  A while back, I had 3 days with an instructor in which each day exceeded the previous by leaps and bounds.  I always tip generously, but I was so pleased that I tipped twice what I had originally intended to for the 3 days.  Very happy student at end of last day = smiling instructor.  Waiting until the end gives you the flexibility to dynamically adjust without day to day irregularity.  I've also noticed at week-long ski camps that tips are generally given at the end of the week.

Metaphor_,

I'm not an instructor, but maybe this suggestion will make sense anyway.  If you feel awkward, consider that you are likely to see these individuals again in a non-exam clinic setting some day.  Why not give a cumulative thank you at the later date?  Besides the monetary tip you could tell them about the effect they've had on your teaching and skiing and how grateful you've been for their guidance -- feed both their wallet and their sense of professional accomplishment.
post #10 of 17
I was a clinic instructor and examiner.  Would have been uncomfortable being tipped at an association sanctioned event.  Don't think it is really a very good idea.  Offer to buy them a beer and express your appreciation. 
post #11 of 17
stranger,

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I was a clinic instructor and examiner.  Would have been uncomfortable being tipped at an association sanctioned event.  Don't think it is really a very good idea.  Offer to buy them a beer and express your appreciation. 
I always make it point to collect a tip from the other instructors attending a PSIA clinic.  They can contribute any amount they feel comfortable with.  The Examiners are always thankful that we showed our appreciation for their help and effort.

RW
post #12 of 17
 Agree with Stranger, most instructors are scraping just to pay the fees for training and certs, let alone having money to tip the clinician/examiner.  Simply expressing your thanks and gratitude verbally is enough for me!  

Dr. Skinny,

I agree, the end of the multi-day lesson is an appropriate time as you have had time to assess the whole experience and tip accordingly.  I have had clients who skied with me for 30 - 40 days throughout the season and tipped at the end of the season rather than each time they were in town.    
post #13 of 17
At the PSIA-E Pro Jam event (Killington, 2nd week of Dec, 5 days, M-F, 400+ instructors) we usually collect from the group during the week, get a card and present it to the clinician at the Thursday night banquet. I aso make an effort to buy drinks during the week for any trainer I know or want to get to know. Tipping an examiner for an exam event is not allowed. It is ok for "prep" clinics. Partly for this reason, there is an effort made at exams to place you with examiners you have never skied with before. One of the reasons the best lessons are part of certification pathway is you're getting your lessons from the best instructors. The new pick up story was from Deer Valley (go figure).
post #14 of 17
I must say that for the past few days I'm finding that Texans and Venezuelans are great tippers. 

For multi-day lessons, most people tip at the end of the last lesson.
post #15 of 17
Either way is fine with most instructors; however, it is not a bad idea to let the instructor in on your plans.
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by shortturns View Post

Either way is fine with most instructors; however, it is not a bad idea to let the instructor in on your plans.
 

I don't think it hurts in any way to tip at the end of the lesson each day.  That way, your instructor will know you're the tipping type.  While, theoretically, it shouldn't affect the quality of your subsequent lessons, it might get you some extra time on the hill with your instructor if he or she has that discretion and/or a better tour of the mountain during the lessons.
post #17 of 17
 I think I set a new personal record yesterday. It didn't have wheels or anything though.
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