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post #1 of 9
12/22/09 at 4:47pm
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I hand tune the bases of my skis as close to flat as possible and put a 1 degree bevel on my side edges with a sharpening tool.  This seems to work petty well for me but am hoping to get a bit better edge hold without it getting grabby.  Is more or less side bevel recommended for quintessential New England skiing?
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post #2 of 9
12/22/09 at 5:48pm
I use .5 degrees  for the base and 4 degrees for the edge angle on our "groomer " skis (Volkl AC 40 and K2 burnin luv)  for everyday use in Vermont. I keep the .5 degrees on the base and go to 3 degrees for the edge angle on our crud skis (K2 outlaw and K2 tough luvs). I do not detune the tips and tails of  skis as this will make them wash out.
My wife and I enjoy the .5 degrees on the base engaging early and holding through the turn. The flat base and acute edge angle gives skis that "new" ski feel again and again, or until the material in the skis self destructs.
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post #3 of 9
12/22/09 at 6:09pm
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Originally Posted by skium View Post

I hand tune the bases of my skis as close to flat as possible and put a 1 degree bevel on my side edges with a sharpening tool.  This seems to work petty well for me but am hoping to get a bit better edge hold without it getting grabby.  Is more or less side bevel recommended for quintessential New England skiing?

First off, you need to know your side bevel. If the shop did it for you, I'm assuming it's 1°.
As for side, most sources recommend 3, which gives a nice sharp edge (88° with a 1° base) that doesn't dull too quickly.

@hairybones: 0.5-4 for recreational skiing? Thats an extremely aggressive tune imo 
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post #4 of 9
12/22/09 at 7:03pm
My preference is 0.5 degree base and 3 degree side.  0.5 degree base and 2 degree side works not too badly if you keep 'em sharp.  I can live with 1 base three side; the 1 degree only feels sloppy when you don't have the skis tipped up on edge.
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post #5 of 9
12/25/09 at 2:18pm
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Thanks for the info.  The general rule I am seeing is that 3 degree is the way to go.  I'm going to give it a shot next time I sharpen.  txs
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post #6 of 9
12/25/09 at 2:20pm
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Thanks,  It looks like I can go more on the side bevel.  I am going to give it a try.  My home mountain is Whiteface so I should benefit for a better edge hold on their steeps. 
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post #7 of 9
3/4/12 at 5:44pm

Old thread... but still relevant.

I like it simple.  I bevel mine and my family's skis / snowboards 1 degree base and 1 degree side.

Seems to work well in virtually all situation.

Plus it is simple to remember >> 1 / 1.

 

Note: nobody in my family does racing, so I don't need to worry about any other angles.

 

Question for the forum members -- I "do not" de-tune my shaped skis BUT I "do" de-tune my snowboards.

I seem to recall reading in a post here or somewhere about not de-tuning shaped skis.  Do you agree? 

If shaped skis do not need to be de-tuned, why do snowboards need to be de-tuned? 

Or maybe I should not de-tune my snowboards anymore?

 

I only ski/snowboard about 5-10 times a year (during my younger days, I skied quite a lot on straight skis! But these days with kids/family I don't have that option anymore), so I really do not have the luxury to try out different combinations (de-tune, not de-tune, different bevel angles, etc..) -- So I need to rely on your expert advise.

 

Thanks.

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post #8 of 9
3/5/12 at 3:49am

if the ski comes off the shelf with a 1 on the base, I assume you can't go backwards to a .5 or .7 without getting a base grind first ?

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post #9 of 9
3/5/12 at 6:25am
Correct
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