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Could I get my L1 online (fiction)

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hi, would somebody like to be a virtual examiner and test me for L1 online? Best thing would be if I could tape the drills on video and post them here. I would need a task list.
post #2 of 12
May we assume that you are asking about PSIA level 1 certification? If so, having seen your skiing on video and your posting history, I would have no problem giving you your virtual level 1. Instead of going through the trouble of taping drills, why not just test yourself. Here's the exam guide for the Eastern division (the other divisions have similar criteria). You're good enough to know whether or not your skiing and teaching skills measure up.
post #3 of 12
 PSIA Level 1 is harder not to pass than it is to pass.

Does anyone actually know of anyone who hasnt passed PSIA Level 1? I have heard that it has gotten harder since 2003(when I took it) but the 'standards" havent changed since then.
post #4 of 12
 I did read in a recent PSIA magazine that they are going to raise the bar on Level 1 due to the high pass rate.  When I took it 3 years ago (Eastern Division) I think everyone passed.  Basically you have to be able to ski fairly well, and be able to talk to a group kind of like a teacher.

Even crashing into the examiner and taking him down didn't fail one of the people in my group.
post #5 of 12
Hmmmm  taking mine jan 13/14. I ski fairly well and don't have a problem talking to a group of beginners, but the highest level i've crashed into and taken down was L3, think I've got a chance with an Examiner?
post #6 of 12
I know of one person that didn't make Level I.  He got into an argument with the Examiner when he asked him to do a wedge turn.  Examinee said they didn't teach the wedge anymore.  Examiner asked him to demo a wedge again. Not sure how it played out from there but the guy didn't pass.
Suggest you demo whatever is asked and if you have a difference of opinion, you have a basis to support it other than "I don't do those!".  Examiners are pretty open minded to rational thinking.

Hadn't heard they were "tightening" up Level I however - at least in C division.

I agree with BWPA, tough to not make it if you've got anything at all together.
post #7 of 12
I don't believe that Level I is a "gimmy" anymore.   I've heard all of the jokes that you have to just have a pulse, but I didn't feel that way when I took my Level 1 exam in 2006.  In fact, there were two candidates that didn't pass in my group.  The one guy's teaching wasn't quite there, and the other guys skiing was a little weak.  There were also a couple of members of my ski school who didn't pass last year. 

Merry Christmas to all of my cyber ski buddies!   :D
post #8 of 12
 From the PSIA-E Summer newsletter:

"Another exam area that has received committee attention is the Level 1 exam. It is felt that at the present pass rate of about 99.46%, the National Standard for Level 1 is not being taken as seriously as it should be. For the standard to have meaning it is important that certified instructors have skills generally at or above the average skiing public. For this reason, this coming season the Level 1 National Standard will receive greater scrutiny."

post #9 of 12
 Are there any level 1, 2, and 3 online ski standards demo videos? I'd be curious to see what the expectations are. Text descriptions in the exam guide only go so far in helping you visualize.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys for all the great input here and for good spirit. Particulary therusty, that document is a great reading and really puts you on the spot. Ive been skiing all my life and teaching soon 20y but there is so much to learn and re-learn from basics and up. Thanks for the virtual L1 pin .
post #11 of 12
Metaphor,
The best video of L1-3 standards that I am aware of is on the PSIA-RM site.
http://www.psia-rm.org/products.php?sorttype=alpine  skiing standards 2004 DVD.

Don't know of any online that depict the various levels.  The snowpros site has a bunch but not seperated by level.

However, IMHO, by far the best document on the exam maneuvers (and just plain good skiing in general) is Bob Barnes' "Guide to understanding and performing the Skiing maneuvers of the PSIA-RM Alpine certification exams".  It tells you what the maneuver is, what good looks like, what the disqualifiers are and how to do them(the maneuvers, not the disqualifiers!).  The DVD above compliments this document.  This document has helped me immensely in doing exam maneuvers and made dramatic improvements in my own skiing. But perhaps more importantly, it has changed the way I think about skiing.  Yeah, if you don't have the skills, you can't do the maneuvers and if you practice the maneuvers you can improve your skills.

Can you tell I really really like this? 
I am baffled why this has not been adopted by the National organization - or at least used as a template to create an official national document like it.

My cursory look at the web site fails to see it there however.

Cheers!
Edited by Snowhawk - 12/26/09 at 6:52am
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by Snowmiser View Post

I don't believe that Level I is a "gimmy" anymore.   I've heard all of the jokes that you have to just have a pulse, but I didn't feel that way when I took my Level 1 exam in 2006.  In fact, there were two candidates that didn't pass in my group.  The one guy's teaching wasn't quite there, and the other guys skiing was a little weak.  There were also a couple of members of my ski school who didn't pass last year. 

Merry Christmas to all of my cyber ski buddies!   :D
 


And it shouldn't be. I'd doubt that anyone who's able to clinic regularly would have trouble with the skiing part, unless they just can't ski. The teaching part should be pretty deep. What's the teaching part of the exam like, question & answer, demonstation, all done on the snow? I think you'd have to have a lot of time observing, assisting and teaching to pass this without usinge the study guide along with core concepts.

Thanks
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