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post #451 of 468
Living in a ski reosrt my tendency has always been to wear a helmet on weekends when it gets crazy crowded. I always felt someone could easily run into me. After reading teddibiase's post I may rethink my actions. Catching an edge is an easy thing to do. Best of luck to your buddy.
post #452 of 468
It wasn't some super big rock, he wasn't hitting some crazy jump, the terrain wasn't that hard to manage, he just caught an edge.  Ski Patrol was on the ball.  Within 30 minutes there were 7 or 8 guys there helping.  And exactly 72 minutes from the time Sonny was on top of the mountain he was being air lifted to the hospital. 

Seriously, if he wasn't wearing a helmet he would probably be dead.

I have some pics of everything, but I'm having trouble with the image tags.  What are they on this forum?
post #453 of 468
Teddi, you can use the image uploading tool or even the album feature in your profile.  Pictures can even be cut and pasted off published pages.  Conventional vBulletin tags won't work.  You can look at a page in source view, and see how tags work.   Typical code for an image is:

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(spaces added in the code to prevent image from showing)  If you edit a post, you have the option to view it in Source mode.
post #454 of 468

I suck at posting pics here.

post #455 of 468
the rock
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where he came to a stop
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72 minutes after we started the run
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Sonny getting ready to start his fateful run.
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post #456 of 468
teddibiase, best of luck to your friend.  We hope he recovers well.
post #457 of 468

Wow.  That looks like a nasty fall.  Did the rock break through his helmet or was the blood from some other body part?
post #458 of 468
There was a chunk missing from his helmet.  Most of the blood is from his face.  Some might be from his leg though.
post #459 of 468
 Amazing how that little rock can do that much damage.

Let's hope for a full recovery.

...with a name like Big Money Sonny, he's gotta be a blast to hang with.
post #460 of 468
He's got a pretty good aim.  One tiny rock hidden in all that snow, and he managed to find it! 

Was he sliding down or rag-dolling when he hit the rock, or did he just fall right into it? 

Keep an eye out where your headed and protect your head!
post #461 of 468
Depends on the size of my clothing. If I am wearing like tighter clothes I won't wear a helmet and look like a bobble head. If I am reppin the XXL threads I'll definitely throw on a lid, unless I wanna rock the DJ headphones. I always have a good amount of helmet sag though, 1 inch gap is perfect but anything up to 3 inches is acceptable IMO.
post #462 of 468
He landed directly on the rock.  He caught his edge about 7 feet above the rock and it threw him directly onto the rock.  He bouced off the rock and did a 180* in the air before coming to a hault.  Last night he was insurgery for over 9 hours to repair his face.
post #463 of 468
That will hurt for a while.
post #464 of 468
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Originally Posted by teddibiase View Post

He landed directly on the rock.  He caught his edge about 7 feet above the rock and it threw him directly onto the rock.  He bouced off the rock and did a 180* in the air before coming to a hault.  Last night he was insurgery for over 9 hours to repair his face.

I'm glad he's still amongst the living.  Hope he recovers quickly!   

IMO- since I've been wearing a helmet I ski very aggressively, so it might be a catch-22 in regards to helmets.  More aggressive skiing means a higher chance of failure and injury.  With that said, I'll never go out without one! 
post #465 of 468
 I started wearing a helmet this year for two reasons:

- I'm skiing with kids now, I want them to wear helmets, it helps to set an example
- I tried on the Smith Variant Brim, which is super-comfortable on my head (your mileage may vary)
post #466 of 468
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Originally Posted by Rippingit View Post




I'm glad he's still amongst the living.  Hope he recovers quickly!   

IMO- since I've been wearing a helmet I ski very aggressively, so it might be a catch-22 in regards to helmets.  More aggressive skiing means a higher chance of failure and injury.  With that said, I'll never go out without one! 
This season was my first season with a helmet.  I don't ski any more aggressively with a helmet than I did without one. 
post #467 of 468
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Originally Posted by Keith Jordan View Post

 I started wearing a helmet this year for two reasons:

- I'm skiing with kids now, I want them to wear helmets, it helps to set an example
- I tried on the Smith Variant Brim, which is super-comfortable on my head (your mileage may vary)
I'll have to try that one on.  The only helmet I've found so far that is really comfortable is the salomon ski patrol? helmet i think.
post #468 of 468
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Hit by a skier, side on as I skied off a cat track onto a short steeper slope that is regularly used by all and sundry. Skier decided that over taking a ski school class at high speed in a slow zone was appropriate (Alpine Responsibility Code 2 - Always stay in control, people ahead of you have the right of way) and slammed into  the side of me. Head on head contact, full impact on right hand side (bruising, ribs knees etc), knocked out of skis (DIN12) and thrown about 15 metres diagonally down the hill, not sure how many times I tumbled (think 2-3) and left hand side is all banged up either from the tumbles or the whiplash effect of the impact.

If I had not been wearing a helmet I think I would have a fractured skull or worse at this moment.

Wearing a helmet is, as always, not about what I do skiing 90% of the time, for most of my skiing there is very little risk I will high side onto a rck or a tree. But for 90% of my skiing there is a fair chance that some idiot intermediate punter, who is skiing or riding at a speed and choosing path options that are outside of his/ her ability to control ie safely stop or change direction to avoid a collision, is the greatest danger. This is the greatest danger to most snow users.

For $150-$600 for a helmet to help protect a $1 million plus body/ head - small investment and one well worth doing.

I wonder how many people in wheel chairs or with other disabilities from a head injury that could have been reduced by wearing a helmet talk about how happy they are that they exercised their 'freedom to choose' now?!

Go to a good store, try on a wide variety and find one that is the right shape and fit internally, like ski boots the colour and external appearance is largely irrelevant, and spend what you think protects your head properly.

I am grateful that I always wear a helmet, am fighting to get another good one (Sweet or POC) but will wear whatever fits properly in the mean time (Giro Seam).
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