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K2 Axis Mod X for advanced re-entry? what size?

post #1 of 8
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Hi, after following a 'straight ski' thread here in 'Gear', I figured I should just post my Q separately. History...
Over-the-hill, old, re-entry skier, 5' 11", 165 Lbs, 'competitive' conditioning (I still race pedal bikes), coming back after 8+ year layoff, been on boards since 1966, skied a lot, on a lot of diff mtns. Always on 205s or longer- even back in 01 when I last skied. Not put off by any terrain, pitch or condition. Used to charge pretty hard but now expecting to be a bit more mellow (as much as that can happen). Carve, carve, carve, huck... carve carve carve.
Have never skied a shorter shape ski of any kind for more than a few runs, never liked them (I don;t think Olin MK IVs or  Winter Heats count - I hated them...). But also never spent any time on a modern shape ski.
Now I'd like to re-enter and try a more modern 'shape' ski - get away from the old skis. BUT I'm wanting to make the transition in steps. So this year looking to get something which skis between the old straight skis and modern full-on short shape.
I'm looking for a ski which I can use primarily for this year to make this transition.
I would like something easy to ski, to loaf around on and also be somewhat stable when I let them run a bit. A good condition used set would be ideal.
I have access to 2 good used prs of K2 Mod X (both later models). One is 188 other is 181, both have good bindings.
I would really appreciate thoughts on the suitability of these from others who may have skied them, also thoughts on size.
Will find my way into crud, powder, ice (as much as the west will allow), corduroy, bumps, most everything,
These are available 'local', are in good shape and at a great price.
181 or 188? other thoughts?
Thanks
post #2 of 8
I'd say 181 but that'sjust my $.02. My buddy has alot of discretionary income, and has purcahsed alot of skis over the past 10 years or so, and the one pair that I think were his alltime favorites were the K2 MOD X Pros. He can kick himself that he sold them. Last year in Vail he purchased the new Kastle skis that are absolutely fantastic, but if you would ask him if they ski better than his Mod X's I'm sure he would give the nod to the X's.
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I'm with roundturn's buddy - I LOVED my Axis Pros, and always thought that whoever at K2 OK'd it's successor, the Recon, should be slowly executed using the slowest and most painful means possible. From one of my favorite all-time hard charging skis being made into a nondescript POS with no compelling value, someone should have paid heavily.

Now, you're talking Axis X, which is a slightly softer version of the pro- still a nice ski. To be honest, a "great price" on them (including indemnified bindings) should be about $50, as they are getting to be vintage. At your weight 181 should be OK, as they were pretty burly.

Opinion though - it really isn't necessary to go "half way". While some of the carvers require the latest technique, there are plenty of up-to-date models that have fantastic capabilities and will accept older techniques, and don't always have to be set on edge to get any enjoyment. AND, if you get an older pair, they aren't going to cost a lot. My favorite is the Dynastar 8000, but I know that the Head Monsters are also quite accepting as were the Nordica Top Fuels, and I'm sure you'll get a lot of other recommendations.

For used versions of those skis, $250-$300 should do it.
post #4 of 8
When I read the question I wondered how long until someone said 8000s. Didn't take long, good choice.
post #5 of 8
 I wouldn't put too much emphasis on "transitioning" to new gear and think it's a mistake to look for vintage gear for this reason.  There are a wide range of 2008-2010 skis that you would find a joy to ski.  If anything, they will improve your experience significantly.  The distinction between traditional straight skis and shape skis was a big deal in the late 90s and early part of this decade, but ski design has settled out to the point where the modern ski is its own unique engineering achievement, with materials and construction techniques that make for great combinations of width, stiffness, etc.

Seriously, just look for the right 2008-2010 ski and enjoy the advances in ski technology.  They will make the most of your time on skis.  For all-mountain, something in the 78-85mm waist range, and sized nose-height should fit the bill.  If in doubt, rent/demo a few pairs.
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post

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Now, you're talking Axis X, which is a slightly softer version of the pro- still a nice ski. To be honest, a "great price" on them (including indemnified bindings) should be about $50, as they are getting to be vintage. At your weight 181 should be OK, as they were pretty burly.
... My favorite is the Dynastar 8000, but I know that the Head Monsters are also quite accepting as were the Nordica Top Fuels, and I'm sure you'll get a lot of other recommendations.
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Oops, I should clarify - the 188s are Axis Mod X Pros, the 181s are slightly older model plain Axis Mod X .
As stated I have been keeping my eyes out for Head Monsters... And will now also look at those Dynastars...
I'm restricting myself to looking at used skis which I can actually see/touch, so I can determine condition (ski & binding). Which means I don;t get a huge selection in our small valley. Total population around here (Goleta/Santa Barbara/Carpinteria) is under 200K and not a big snow ski population. If I count in The Santa Ynez Valley that might add another 25k tops. I am checking listing in Ventura County, but then the ski needs to be a real consideration - its over 45 miles for me just to get to downtown Ventura, much further for the other end of Ventura County.

Comments and thoughts so far are great, and helpful. Please do keep them coming about other considerations.
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post

 I wouldn't put too much emphasis on "transitioning" to new gear and think it's a mistake to look for vintage gear for this reason.  ...Seriously, just look for the right 2008-2010 ski and enjoy the advances in ski technology.  They will make the most of your time on skis.  For all-mountain, something in the 78-85mm waist range, and sized nose-height should fit the bill.  If in doubt, rent/demo a few pairs.
 

Also on my mind... I will prolly demo some real new designs, once I get back on and feel solid. I'm convinced I will prolly buy at least 2 prs of skis within this next year.
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Originally Posted by moreoutdoor View Post




Oops, I should clarify - the 188s are Axis Mod X Pros, the 181s are slightly older model plain Axis Mod X .
As stated I have been keeping my eyes out for Head Monsters... And will now also look at those Dynastars...
I'm restricting myself to looking at used skis which I can actually see/touch, so I can determine condition (ski & binding). Which means I don;t get a huge selection in our small valley. Total population around here (Goleta/Santa Barbara/Carpinteria) is under 200K and not a big snow ski population. If I count in The Santa Ynez Valley that might add another 25k tops. I am checking listing in Ventura County, but then the ski needs to be a real consideration - its over 45 miles for me just to get to downtown Ventura, much further for the other end of Ventura County.

Comments and thoughts so far are great, and helpful. Please do keep them coming about other considerations.

Don't forget the Nordica Top Fuels - I found them very accepting of older style. and generally a fun ski.

I wouldn't do a 188 Axis Pro - that's a pretty burly ski in a fairly long length- you'll miss out on most of what the newer stuff does so well. Keep in mind that you will have to alter your style to get the most out of what's available today, but the reward is that you'll be skiing more terrain and having more fun doing so.

Of course, not knowing how many days you'll ski, and where, the ultimate suggestion is to demo and see what you like.

There are also retailer well known for great deals that you can feel comfortable with levelninesports.com, evogear.com, backcountryoutlet.com, and also check the classifieds here and at TGR.com
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