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post #1 of 25
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I'd appreciate any guidance on binding location.  My ski shop is suggesting -2 if I plan on using the ski as a designated powder ski and 0 if I plan on using it for more varied conditions including powder.  I went with Rossi Freeski for the bindings.  Thanks for the help!
post #2 of 25
 I just got mine. I had them mounted at +1.5 but....  I used the Marker Schizo so I can go from -1.5 to +4.5. I demoed them at 0 and felt like if anything I'd go forward.
post #3 of 25

for powder sking I suggest to mount it 1,5cm more in to the back... but yes schizo is perfect solution and you can trim it as you wish even after initial installation.. best, Z

post #4 of 25

Mounted mine at 0 and I find it hard to get my tips to dive.  I ski the 188cm and i'm 201lbs.

post #5 of 25

Mine are at 0 on the 188's, and it seems like a good compromise. I do notice it tends to want to come around pretty quick at times in deep snow, but nothing I can't compensate for. I like to ski trees, so this seems like a good location, but 0 does seem like a slightly forward mount.  I definitely could see mounting them back a cm or 2 for big mountain/powder skiing, so sounds like your shop has it about right. 

post #6 of 25

Not much tail at 0, can't imagine -2.  Maybe for the deep stuff.....

post #7 of 25
Ski Diva thread indicates that Rossi had a different recommended mounting point for the 2010 vs 2011 (0 vs -2) women's version of the S7, although they also said that this year's -2 is the same physical point on the ski as last year's 0. They cited the tech bulletin from Rossignol. I just bought a new pair and need to get them mounted and would love to know how to get this information from the manufacturer. Also, seeking advice on bindings. Did a search and found a post that claims the Marker Jester/Griffon is better on wide skis than the Look/Rossignol binding. Any opinions on the veracity of that?? Thanks.
post #8 of 25
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Ski Diva thread indicates that Rossi had a different recommended mounting point for the 2010 vs 2011 (0 vs -2) women's version of the S7, although they also said that this year's -2 is the same physical point on the ski as last year's 0. They cited the tech bulletin from Rossignol..


Interesting...I'd like to hear more about this as well.

 

The lead guy at my local shop recommends mounting -2 for regular use. I have my '10 188 S7s mounted at 0 - although they frankly ski great on the line. My wife's 168 s110s are also mounted on the line and she loves hers as well.

post #9 of 25

Just use a Schizo binding and find the mount point that works for you. If mine were mounted at -2, I'd hate them.

post #10 of 25

Epic is right but 2009 series and 2010 are a different story. 2009 have missed center point line. So, Schizo helped me to find perfect mounting position.

post #11 of 25

to clarify, are you stating that the current 2011 s7 center mount position corresponds to -2 on the '09-'10 models?

 

Those of us with fixed mount bindings don't have the easy option of playing around with the binding position.

post #12 of 25

This was posted on TGR last season, in Nov 2009. I don't know if anything has changed sinc ethen, but you can just use a tape measure. Mine were marked correctly.

 

 

S7 Mounting chart from Rossi

So here's the official word on mounting S7's:

Take these measurements from the tail of the ski toward the tip. Keep the measuring tape tight & straight.

This is what the 0 mark should measure:
195 length = 89.3 cm
188 length = 86 cm
176 length = 80.4 cm
166 length = 78 cm

If you never ski switch, or only rarely, mount your binding back -2 cm's:
195 length = 87.3 cm
188 length = 84 cm
176 length = 78.4 cm
166 length = 76 cm

If you ski switch in Powder, mount your binding forward +3:
195 length = 92.3 cm
188 length = 89 cm
176 length = 83.4 cm
166 length = 81 cm

About mount line changes from year to year:
The original prototype had a different mount line compared to the production version. So if any of you have a rep's demo, athlete's ski or were able to get a pre release hookup from Rossi (Jan 2008 to end of season) the 0 mark on that ski was at -2. For example:
0 mark for prototype S7 in 188 length = 84 cm
0 mark for production S7 in 188 length = 86 cm

post #13 of 25

Thanks segbrown !

post #14 of 25

nice segbrown... :) compliments

post #15 of 25
Thank you!
post #16 of 25

I just went thru this for my wife's new skis here at Mt Bachelor. They recommend -2 based on last 3 years experience with demos and sales of these skis.

She demoed at 176 at -2, I skiied 188s at -2. Skiied great, especially with all the pow we've had so far. No problems in trees at -2, turn on a dime. Binding mount point are definatley personal, as are skis, boots, and all else. One skiers dream is another's nightmare. Mount them and have fun.

 

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post #17 of 25

Any further feedback on this issue from last season's "testing"?  I'm about to mount my 178cm 2012 S7's which have the "0" line at about 80cm from the tail (which seems to be the expected location for production versions as listed in Segbrown's last post).  I'll be skiing them mostly in deep powder, won't ski switch, don't care too much about their packed snow performance, and prefer that they not give up maneuverability for the sake of ultimate float or high-speed stabilty (I ski mostly trees/bumps).  There seems to be a split decision between 0 and -2 so I was hoping for more "data points" (I'm always looking to fly my geek flagnonono2.gif).   BTW - already have a pair of Marker Griffons so the Schizo approach is not an option...Thanks!smile.gif

post #18 of 25

IME (165 lbs) -2 for directional skiers, 0 for tricksters using the 188. Demoed the 178 at 0, very quick and easy in tight places, but not as settled as I'd want in chopped up pow and the tail felt massive and vague. So even for a lighter skier than me, cannot see much inside -2. Cannot speak to any change in lines over the past two years, but I'd always measure from the tail to double check, anyway. 

post #19 of 25

I just had my 2012 Super 7 done at 0.

I was on the fence but that is what the shop guys suggested.

post #20 of 25

I just got a pair of the 178 2012/2013 S7's and I got the Marker Griffon bindings.. I read posts on where to locate the bindings until my eyes bled. I am 5'8" 165 lbs at 52 years old want this to be my "all mountain" ski. The tech here in Montana suggested going with zero and said that going forward much is for "parks" and going back to 1.5 or 2 would make it a better dedicated powder ski. I opted to go with zero as of today. I hope I did the right thing. I am geeked to get on these this winter as the reviews on this ski have been awesome and I don't much like what they did with the new version.. 

post #21 of 25

I ended up mounting mine at -1.5cm, just to give a scinch more versatility than the usual -2cm recommended for the deep.  I like the position and was surprised at how well the ski handles packed snow conditions (even some harder stuff, though I mainly use it for deep snow) - I feel very centered/balanced over the sidecut area when carving.  The design of the tip pretty much assures that it won't dive in deep snow no matter where you mount 'em; however the tail on this ski is real long so I'm glad I didn't go any further forward.  Therefore I can't imagine mounting 'em much more forward (even to add versatility) other than for skiing it switch.  That's my $0.02.

post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by montanaman View Post
 

I just got a pair of the 178 2012/2013 S7's and I got the Marker Griffon bindings.. I read posts on where to locate the bindings until my eyes bled. I am 5'8" 165 lbs at 52 years old want this to be my "all mountain" ski. The tech here in Montana suggested going with zero and said that going forward much is for "parks" and going back to 1.5 or 2 would make it a better dedicated powder ski. I opted to go with zero as of today. I hope I did the right thing. I am geeked to get on these this winter as the reviews on this ski have been awesome and I don't much like what they did with the new version.. 

 

0 mount on the S7 is more for all around, which is what you want, too far back and you'll lose the little bit of tail you have...which is very little.  Forward mount is to combat the lack of tail so you can stomp big jumps.  Have you ever ridden on a pair of S7's?  I'm on my 4th season with S7's @ 0 and still love them. 

post #23 of 25

0 for me, first on S7's & now on Super 7's.  Heard all kinds of weird things on mount point when I got the first pair, but I am perfectly happy with 0.


Edited by 4ster - 9/23/13 at 7:17pm
post #24 of 25

Can't speak to ski-ra's "scinch" but my 188's were mounted at -2, which was the official Rossi rec. I'm your weight, bit taller. Suspect anything in the -1 to -2 would be fine; for the 178 you might want a mite/scinch/smidge closer to -1. 

post #25 of 25

This will be my first year in them here in Montana.. I sold my one year old Volkl RMT 84 skis which I felt were just to stiff and too much work to ski. I had them mounted at the "0" point and figure I can move them back if I use them in more deep powder conditions but I bought them to be my " all mountain ski" so I am hoping they are that. I demoed a pair of S3's last year and loved them. I was told by the sales person that these are twice the ski and once on them I would never go back.... regardless of conditons...

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