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Brand new volkl race skis...

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
I've got some brand new volkl 183 racetigers which i will be using for racing,
I know how to wax and sharpen my own skis but have never had to start a pair like these... they are perfect and i would like to have them in decent shape for a while.

so I'm asking, what things should i do now, in their first waxing session ever, that wouldnt  normally need to be done (like waxing extra times and paying extra close attention to the edges which will be a .5 and 3.5 bevel)

I've heard that volkl race skis come with absolutely no prep work and need a lot of attention for a while but i dont know what any of that is...

post #2 of 9

To be set up properly, that ski can take a fair amount of work right out of the wrapper. I'm presuming that these are brand new and have had no work done to them. I recall from an earlier post that you're not looking to spend extra money. I would suggest, though, that you really ought to have the skis ground with a good allround race structure, and that you have that shop set up the bevels. They are great skis, but they need to be dialed in. If you're really good with your hand, then perhaps just have them ground, and set up the bevels yourself. The risk you run is that even the best guys, who are convinced that they are really accurate in setting bevels, often are not. It's hard to get right. The skis are generally are NOT ground by Volkl race. You can tell if they have been. The sidewalls on the ski normally take a lot of pulling, to get the room to do the edges, and it's fairly soft material. If you know what you're going, fine. If you don't have the experience, then practice on some other skis first. I've seen pretty good tech's make the sidewalls on that ski look like they were "chewed". A panzar file and sandpaper can accomplish a lot.


I've been around some people setting up these skis to be skied at real high levels, and in terms of waxing, if you have some or can get some, I would start with Raceservice SBC. Huge favorite of mine, as it's super soft. Bases just eat it. Iron it in, let it sit until it's cold, and repeat a couple of times. Then go to a soft hydro wax, like maybe Holmenkol Alphamix {a soft yellow wax}, and do a couple of layers. then I'd get at what you'll usually use as your base wax. Might be a pink mid temp, like a Holmenkol Beta. Brand doesn't matter at all, but the SBC is pretty unique, IMO, and I'm partial to that. I'm sure that Dominator and others make a similar wax. If you use plenty of wax, let it sit before scraping, and are careful with the iron, you'll get a nice saturation. Brushing them out a bit, might help, but isn't critiacal. Then keep them waxed, with a couple of treatments every time that they touch snow for the first 3-4 days, and I bet they'll be nice and "greasy". Those bases like wax, and respond well to this. Keep them waxed through the season, and they should be great.

That process has worked pretty well in my family for that exact ski.


I'm kind of surprised by a 3.5 edge bevel. Might try a 3 to start, and see how you like it. Just a thought.

post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
hey thanks mule you've always been helpful on my threads ...
i went out to my shop and the edges were already a 3.5 bevel, I've always raced on that angle and i like it so I'm sticking with that for the edges and i started with about three rounds of ch10 and it soaked up well, scraped, brushed and did ch8 and left it kinda thick and gave it a good brush I'm going to do some skiing tomorrow, i think I'll take it easy on these, probably switch to my older skis after about 2 hours of skiing then I'll give them a couple good waxings tomorrow night.
whoever purchased these intended to use them, idk what happened, they were marked for holes for a race set up but nothing was ever done with them and they were never skied, but there was a little evidence that they were prep sharpened at a shop because the sidewalls were cut away perfectly for bevels.
post #4 of 9
Sounds like you're in great shape with them.....have fun. They'll be rockets!
post #5 of 9
The Swix Alpine manual has a section of the preparation of new race skis.  $4 and worth every penny.
post #6 of 9
 So, you've got a 3.5 degree side edge tool?
post #7 of 9
I do.
post #8 of 9
Originally Posted by BigE View Post

 So, you've got a 3.5 degree side edge tool?

A lot of the edge "multi-tools" can be set up for almost any combination. I have a Holmenkol branded tool that can do .5 to 7.5 degrees. Not tremendously precise..... It was given to my son, and he uses it at 7 with a Panzer file just to pull sidewalls. Not used for anything else. But that type of tool could be set up for 3.5.

A 3.5 sounded a bit aggressive to me, based on what I know about the ski {which is a fair amount}, and my perception of the surface and sets the OP will be skiing. He's discussed primarily HS racing, in upstate NY. It's a very, very good woman's GS ski, and it's the more beefy stock. Whatever works for the owner, I guess.

Most HS sets that I've observed would require a fair about of skidding, pivoting, etc. and I'm not sure if anything over a three degree would help, rather than hinder.  But then again I'm not sure if many of us could tell the difference between a 3 and and 3.5.

Quick comment on the Swix manual. Every wax company has one, and they can be very helpful if you're new to this. They also sometimes push a lot of product and steps that aren't always necessary. I would look at the thread that Primoz started on ski prep....good info, IMO.

I thought the skis were new, out of the shrink wrap based on the first post. Didn't realize that they were essentially all done, other than the wax. Sounds like a nice score by the OP! Enjoy them!
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
your right my mistake...
it was a 2.5
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