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Survivorman goes skiing.

post #1 of 14
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My kids love watching Survivorman. I've thought it would be great to see Les Stroud do a few days in the sidecountry of a ski area. Things can and do go wrong pretty fast out there. Last year I broke my tibial plateau out of bounds in Stowe. Before I got back up, I was already thinking about what I'd be doing if I couldn't get up. It was 15 below zero and although I did get up and ski it in, it was just about dark when we got back to the resort. If I hadn't been able to get up, there's no doubt I'd have been in the woods for at least part of the night. What do you guys have in your pockets and or packs that you would use if you couldn't go on? What should you (realistically have)? I pretty much always have a folding knife and leatherman and a phone that may or may not work. Wouldn't get too far with that. Whenever I have my pack I throw in some extra down layers, snack, water. I think I'm going to pt some kind of firestarting something in the pack. I've thought of an IR strobe on the assumption that SAR would have FLIR and of course a .45 for the wolves!

edit: forgot the Harmonica. Les would have that for sure.
post #2 of 14
WWLD - What Would Les Do?

If I know I'm going beyond say close in side country  I wear a pack with:  Space Blanket.  Stuff to start fire with.  Maybe an extra layer or so.  Hand warmers.  Duct tape.  Leatherman tool.  Usually some sort of food like jerky, trail mix or protein bars.

I always have my cell phone and usually have a small walkie on me as well.  There are plenty of times though, where I ski out of bounds side country with nothing but my cell, radio and a pack of matches that are stashed in a pocket of my parka at the beginning of the season and may or may not work in a pinch.  In other words, If I were injured to the point I couldn't stand I would have to crawl out.
post #3 of 14
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 Last night there were four groups of people lost in Stowe sidecountry. Three groups made it out around 2 AM, the other was not found until about Noon today. I wonder how their night was. I heard that at least one of the groups included kids.
post #4 of 14
 I guess if you are out there alone, you're really taking a big chance.
post #5 of 14
10-essential kit - this fits into a 6" stuff sack that gets transferred from pack to pack.  Matches, firestarter, candle, Swiss army knife, Clif Shot Bloks, 50' of parachute cord, Wilderness Essentials bivy, sunscreen, lip stuff, headlamp, duct tape.  Compass, map if I'm in new terrain.  Probably a couple of things I'm forgetting.  Handwarmers.

First aid kit - roller gauze, some 2 x 2's and 4 x 4's, tape, ibuprofin, Benadryl, self-adhesive bandage, Neosporin, alcohol wipes, band aids, splint made from middle part of wiper fluid bottle, space blanket, gloves, cravats.  Fits into a 4" stuff sack, again gets transferred from pack to pack.

4' x 6' tarp

Shortie pad

Down mittens

Synthetic puff jacket

Balaclava

Goggles

Water

Extra food

Extra layers

Shovel/probe/beacon

Couple of carabiners

Cell phone and GPS

In the spring - ski crampons

Voile strap, wax, Glopstopper, inclinometer, camera.


If push came to shove I could make a pretty decent hasty shelter with the tarp/parachute cord/skis/poles, keep myself off the snow with the shortie and my backpack, stay warm with the puffies/balaclava, start a fire if needed, see after dark if needed, rig a traction splint or sled if needed.  Dig a snow cave if needed.  This all fits into a 32-L BD Covert pack, with room to spare for extra layers.
post #6 of 14
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 Last night there were four groups of people lost in Stowe sidecountry. Three groups made it out around 2 AM, the other was not found until about Noon today. I wonder how their night was. I heard that at least one of the groups included kids.

yep I guess next time I ski the butt crack I should make sure I take a space blanket and food call patrol when I can clearly see the road, then ask "where am I?".
post #7 of 14
Whistle

Anybody take a 45 automatic?
post #8 of 14
No .45 but the Uzi fits well in the backpack and is great for educating rude people in the lift line. 

Firing only 3 shots may be a problem though.
post #9 of 14
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 I'm cleaning up/putting away ski gear. I feel something big in the pocket of my daughter's snow suit. It's a huge wad of birch bark. She says it's there in case she gets lost and needs to start a fire. I'm not sure how she thinks she can do that with just birch bark, but she's trying.
post #10 of 14
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 I'm cleaning up/putting away ski gear. I feel something big in the pocket of my daughter's snow suit. It's a huge wad of birch bark. She says it's there in case she gets lost and needs to start a fire. I'm not sure how she thinks she can do that with just birch bark, but she's trying.


Well, Birch bark does have an oil in it and will burn even when wet.  If your daughter can get it lit, she might on the right track.
post #11 of 14
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If your daughter can get it lit, she might on the right track.
 

Well, taht would be the hard part. Anyway, I thought it was pretty cute.
post #12 of 14
I have most of the stuff Mountaingirl posted,  in my pack at all times.  Downside is, it's HEAVY.
But I mostly do lift/sled assisted side country so that's not a huge deal.

We once had to evac a friend from a one hour slack country tour. It took us close to five hours with a crew of very strong back country skiers. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done. I would say that most people are totally unprepared to spend the night, let alone evac someone.   
post #13 of 14
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Well, taht would be the hard part. Anyway, I thought it was pretty cute.

I agree, it is cute.  She must be an interesting girl.  I'd say you are raising her right.
post #14 of 14
magnesium fire starter (walmart 5 bucks) small light and incredibly effective, just scrape off a small pile of magnesium with your  pocket knife onto some kindling then flip the knife over and hit the striker bar with the back edge of your knife, once that magnesium gets lit it burns bright and hot, also dryer lint covered in wax makes a pretty good water proof fire starter, throw em in an egg crate in your pack and your good to go
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