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FREE SEASON PASS FOR SKIERS OVER.........85?????

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
the mountain had offered a free pass for skiers over 75 for many years. as our large group of baby boomers seem to be headed for lots of skiing we joked about needing to keep skiing if just to make the mountain give up the free pass 

and who could have guessed: raised the free age this year: 85 

now that's just cynical. I don't think they'll lose a lot of money on that one, even given the advances in medicine.

does anyone else find putting that pledge in print to be wierd? Is 85 today's 75???????
post #2 of 18
When I got into skiing in the late 80's I thought that would be great to be able to get free skiing when I got to 70, not going to happen. And you might as well forget about social security / medicare too.
post #3 of 18
There are a few 85 year old skiers, but most of them visit their friends at the cemetery or nursing home.
Obviously its too much to ask to get a pass before the years kick your ass.
post #4 of 18
A lot of places offer senior discounts at age 60 or 65, depending on the area. It'd be just my luck that when I turn 60, all the resorts will add 5 years to the senior discount age.
post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

There are a few 85 year old skiers, but most of them visit their friends at the cemetery or nursing home.
Obviously its too much to ask to get a pass before the years kick your ass.
 
A friend was skiing with her 92 year old dad. I was impressed. Just think how many physical abilities have to function to keep skiing, sight, joints, cardio. It's fantastic. but he's a major exception.

And I have buddies who will have spent over 25K on passes at one resort. you're not losing money on them.

I mean, why not just eliminate the offer. 85 and over: give me a break.
post #6 of 18
Aspen use to offer 70 and over for free.  Supposedly that amounted to over 10% of their customers. Now they sell them season passes for $249. 

What if you'd never skied a resort in your entire life, what entitles you to a freebie?
post #7 of 18
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What if you'd never skied a resort in your entire life, what entitles you to a freebie?
 

Yeah, the steel nerve of that......some schmo is learning to ski at age 85 and he expects a free ride, too?  Some knuckledragger has to dip into his ganja money for a pass and he's all PO'd about it, so screw those seniors, make 'em pay for their pass or use the money for home heating or food instead of waving entitilement all over the slopes. 

JEEZ!!
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by SHREDHEAD View Post
Aspen use to offer 70 and over for free.  Supposedly that amounted to over 10% of their customers. Now they sell them season passes for $249

What if you'd never skied a resort in your entire life, what entitles you to a freebie?

I thought about that as well. Many golf clubs will waive annual fees for their older members, but it always seemed like more of a loyalty thing. 

Your figure about Aspen doesn't surprise me. I see a lot of 70 year olds out on the hill, most are great skiers! 
post #9 of 18
Thread Starter 
I think it's the loyalty to one area for decades thing. nice.   but in these times......
post #10 of 18

What is the name of this magnanimous ski area?



"You don't grow too old to play, you grow old because you stop playing"
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

There are a few 85 year old skiers, but most of them visit their friends at the cemetery or nursing home.
Obviously its too much to ask to get a pass before the years kick your ass.
 
I think that's the whole point. The mountain don't expect get much benefit out of an ever increasing large group of 75 year old skiers.

As such, free lift ticket for seniors are mostly a charity. The mountain can only afford to do that to a relatively small group. So raising the free pass age will be neccessary to keep the vgroup small in the face of rising longivity.

Not saying I like it. But I'm so far away from qualifying a free pass it's really irrelavent.
post #12 of 18
Bachelor cut their freebe 70 and over pass this year.  Reason was that the older crowd wasn't spending any money at the mountain: did not buy skis, food, clothing, or anything else.  Therefore, it made little sense for them to keep it going, although that crowd mostly skis weekdays and probably doesn't cost the mountain any money; after all, the lifts are spinning either way.   I would suggest having a buddy pass: bring a ticket-buying friend (or grandkid) up and get a free ticket.  It might be a good way for them to get people on the hill and still get something back out of it.
post #13 of 18
Something that SAM might be able to get behind is a loyalty program.  Kind of like the card you get stamped for buying something, the 10th one is free.  Imagine getting every 10th pass free.  It would keep you loyal, and would probably sell more passes.  Seniors and kids get discounts.  I don't think a free-pass is necessary, but it was a charming gesture of a bygone era.
post #14 of 18
I've heard that there is a good size posse of age 80+ skiers at Wachusett Mtn in MA.  No senior free pass, but they give age 65+ about a 50% discount off the normal price for an unlimited season pass.
My dad used to ski for free at age 70 at Whitetail, PA when it first opened back around 1991.  They don't offer that anymore, but have an inexpensive mid-week senior pass.

I don't think a couple hundred dollars for a senior season pass is going to be the make or break for most seniors to decide if they keep skiing or not.  But I think the industry would gain a lot of family business if they upped the age for free skiing for kids to say something like age 10 when accompanied by a paying adult.  I know a few do this already.
post #15 of 18
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some of those skiers drink a lot of beer at the mountain  .figure, $600 per season.

they rock all the best gear, encouraging consumption of goods.
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by Jamesj View Post

I've heard that there is a good size posse of age 80+ skiers at Wachusett Mtn in MA.  No senior free pass, but they give age 65+ about a 50% discount off the normal price for an unlimited season pass.
 
I'd be willing to bet that the lift line moves pretty slowly there when those geezers are lined up.  Do they have any detachables at Wachussett yet?
post #17 of 18
I would propose the following:

1) Decide on a "start" age of senior pass.

2) For each year above that age, 1% discount...

So, say if 60 is the starting age for senior pass, a senior pass is at 60% of a full pass price. Then, a 70 year old would get a further 10% off and 80 year old a further  20% off ... So, if you live to be 100 and still skiing, FREE! 
 

Eliminate the need to keep upping the "senior" age.


Edited by at_nyc - 12/12/09 at 5:13pm
post #18 of 18
They have two express quads at Wawa.  http://www.dcski.com/articles/view_article.php?article_id=947&mode=headlines

Just came across this current fact about a nice little place near me, only 14 years until elegibility:
Bryce Resort, Virginia: Seniors over 70 years of age can receive free slope access to Virginia’s Bryce Resort on non-holiday weekdays.

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I'd be willing to bet that the lift line moves pretty slowly there when those geezers are lined up.  Do they have any detachables at Wachussett yet?

 
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