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East coast powder ski reccomendations please

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Thread Starter 
I've done a few searches, and most of what I have seen is a couple of years old, so here goes.

Background info:
-I'm 38 years old, 5'9 180 lbs level 8+/- skier
-Currently have 180 Atomic GS9's, and 164 Atomic Nomad Black Eyes

Up until this year I've been skiing about 30-40 days a season at Killington.  I typically ski a mix of bumps and groomed, along with some time in the trees.  Favorite Killington trails:  Devil's Fiddle, Vertigo, Needles Eye Liftline, Ovation, Royal Flush, Escapade, The Lights, Big Dipper, Sky Hawk, Great Bear, Low Rider, North Star, etc.  Starting this season I'll be skiing primarily at Stowe, not as many days though, I have a 6 week old daughter so I won't have as much time to ski this season.  At Stowe, my favorites are Nosedive, National, Hayride, Liftline, Chinclip, Hacket's, etc.  I haven't spent as much time at Stowe, so this list is incomplete.

The Nomads are new, but I plan to use them for my everyday ski.  The GS9's will come out on those firm fast days to bomb hardpack groomers.  I'm interested in adding a powder ski to the quiver.  It should be nimble enough to hop into the trees, and soft enough to handle the bumps that will form on a powder day...probably no ice bumps, but would definitely be looking to hop into Goat (had a blast doing laps on my wedding day, which was the big St. Patty's day storm).  From what I've been reading the Mantras are probably a bit stiff for what I'm looking for.  The other characteristic is they should be durable, I tend to ski with a lot of force, except in the deepest powder, so I've blown out edges on some of my previous skis.  I realize that no ski will be impervious to this, but would prefer to look at skis that will tend to hold up better.
post #2 of 13
Here in Stowe you will want something soft and fat as a 'powder' ski, rocker helps also. The powder is pretty much always in the woods, so in order to appreciate a powder ski here you'll want to be in the woods. Don't muddy the waters with ski characteristics that are 'red herrings', anything that is fat enough to be fun in Stowe's woods is going to be less than ideal on Goat if the snow has blown off into Goat Woods... forget the bumps, ski the powder in the trees.

One of my top choices for a mildly versatile Stowe trees ski is the Rossignol S3, nice width and a little tip and tail rocker with plenty of cambered area underfoot.
post #3 of 13
Having lived in Stowe for four years, I'll second what WR suggests. If I still lived there, I think I'd choose a Rossi S7 as my powtree skis. It is the most nimble of the powder skis that I have tried. You can aim that thing at a tight spot and pop out the other side laughing like the Joker.

Yes......it sux on ice, bumpazz, & hardpack.....most fully rockered stuff does.

If you really care about that, then a couple of alternatives might be the Fischer Watea 114 or the Line Sir Francis Bacon. Both are wide, soft and conventional.

BITD I woulda killed my momma for one O' them skis. Wellllll........maybe not MY momma.......

SJ
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Having lived in Stowe for four years, I'll second what WR suggests. If I still lived there, I think I'd choose a Rossi S7 as my powtree skis. It is the most nimble of the powder skis that I have tried. You can aim that thing at a tight spot and pop out the other side laughing like the Joker.

I just got a pair for that very purpose. Paired with Katanas for days when I want more versatility.
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I just got a pair for that very purpose. Paired with Katanas for days when I want more versatility.

you were one of the last credible funshape not-wanters, too.  
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you were one of the last credible funshape not-wanters, too.  

they are that good really maybe make more sense at stowe then most western places actually.

drink the koolaid its good
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 

 Wow, those are a lot wider than I was thinking.  The 79mm Nomads are the widest skis I've ever owned, so I was thinking something in the 90's.

edited to say:  I'll definitely be watching the weather for a good opportunity to demo the S7's, I will probably also check out something more traditional like the katanas, or maybe one of the Line skis.  The S7 sounds like what I'm looking for, but it's hard to get my mind to think about something that wide.

 

That's what I get for typing this while trying to get my daughter to sleep.

 

Anyway, I'm not in any rush, so if weather cooperates this season, I'll demo the S7's and some other skis to figure out what I want and what will work for me, then buy at the end of the season when the big sales are on.  Thanks for the suggestions, I never would have considered even trying something like the S7 otherwise; keep them coming.
 


Edited by hrspear - 12/10/09 at 10:01am
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post

...I think I'd choose a Rossi S7 as my powtree skis. It is the most nimble of the powder skis that I have tried. You can aim that thing at a tight spot and pop out the other side laughing like the Joker.


 

Nimble - as in easy to turn.  Gotta be easy to turn.

Spear, if you are looking at a 90 check out the Scott Mission.
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Spear, if you are looking at a 90 check out the Scott Mission.

Also good advice. I would have bought a pair, but they threatened On3P-so have to stick to my principals.
post #10 of 13
look into the Dynastar Sultan 85. Wood core, vertical side wall (auto drive). May be a good option.
post #11 of 13
If you are thinking s7 check out the Billy Goat from ON3P. Same dimensions as s7, but a little stiffer. Just as killer in the trees. It will be worth the wait- they are handmade and right now i think the guys over there are pretty backed up. I got a pair on the way for killington trees.
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Originally Posted by hrspear View Post

 Wow, those are a lot wider than I was thinking.  The 79mm Nomads are the widest skis I've ever owned, so I was thinking something in the 90's.
 



  If you already have a 79mm waisted ski I wouldn't bother getting something 90mm. 1mm ( in my opinion) isn't necessarily going to make a ton of a difference. I would go with anything 100+ rocker is also good. Don't be intimidated by the width, lots of wider big mountains skis handle fairly well on groomers. Volkl Gotama is a good ski, as well as K2 ObSethed...
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If you are looking for a more versatile wide ski with some front side capabilities, check out the Blizzard Argos. I am a Mainer and just picked up a pair of last year's from Sierra Jim, a frequent contributor. I have the Blizz Supersonic (amazing front side ski with 72mm waist) and Bliz Cronus (all-around nice ride with 88mm). The Argos is reported to have great hold on hard and the float you would expect from a 101mm waist. I got it in 173mm, but you would probably want the 180cm. You can read SJ's review on this link, and see the rather amazing price for last year's model as well. This year's Argos, if I recall correctly, is 105mm and rockered. Probably a better pow ski but less capable on hard. If pow days at Stowe are like those at the Loaf, the wind creates pockets of pow and then wind-swept hard. I want a ski that can handle the transition. I think the Argos will be good for that. Enjoy!

David
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