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post #61 of 73
Just looked up this Arcteryx company, there stuff looks pretty nice. Also FYI I only own a spyder jacket because I got it on sale for 70 $... and it was originally over 300... so yeah i think any one in there right mind would take a deal that good. = )

Also I have skied with it on in the Pouring rain and in below zero temperatures and it has never failed me. Best jacket I have ever owned. However its the first spyder jacket I have owned so I am not sure what other ones are like...

And again I'm pretty sure gapers don't wear ski jackets... well cool ones anyway...
post #62 of 73
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Congrats. NOW - please make sure you don't have a major gaper gap (distance between goggle top and helmet bottom) when you're on the hill, or wear a full face at any place known for gaperishness (ie any slope with 15+ degrees listed as double diamond), or any other gaper-type activity when wearing your jacket or everything will start all over again.
 

The Smith Prodigy goggles I have (HUGE) paired with my head (MEDIUM) should avoid any large gaps!  Next trip is Taos, so no wories on the mis-labeled double blacks.

 

But thanks for the pointers!

post #63 of 73
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Just looked up this Arcteryx company, there stuff looks pretty nice. Also FYI I only own a spyder jacket because I got it on sale for 70 $... and it was originally over 300... so yeah i think any one in there right mind would take a deal that good. = )

Also I have skied with it on in the Pouring rain and in below zero temperatures and it has never failed me. Best jacket I have ever owned. However its the first spyder jacket I have owned so I am not sure what other ones are like...

And again I'm pretty sure gapers don't wear ski jackets... well cool ones anyway...
skier232, nice shirt!  You should post that in the "why people from CO hate Texans" thread on here :-)
post #64 of 73
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skier232, nice shirt!  You should post that in the "why people from CO hate Texans" thread on here :-)

 


ROFL!!!! Yes I should!!!! lol

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The Smith Prodigy goggles I have (HUGE) paired with my head (MEDIUM) should avoid any large gaps!  Next trip is Taos, so no wories on the mis-labeled double blacks.

 

But thanks for the pointers!


 

  BTW I have the Smith I/O goggles and Smith Variant Brim helmet. They both fit perfectly absolutely no gaps...
post #65 of 73
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And again I'm pretty sure gapers don't wear ski jackets... well cool ones anyway...

I think I might try and copy this outfit next time I'm on the mountain just for Shiz ang giggz.  I only wish that this guy hadn't covered up his sweet fanny pack under that shirt.  You know that's what's there.
post #66 of 73
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Funny story to add to this dormant Arc'teryx thread... 

Today, I was out and about doing some last minute Christmas shopping.  Given the fact that I'm on vacation, I rolled out of bed late and didn't bother to open the door but to let the dog run out and do her business.  It "looked" cold, so I got dressed and grabbed the new Hercules jacket.  Hit the Starbucks and ran a few errands, there was a cool morning wind, so it felt good over the long sleeve/short sleeve T combo I was wearing early morning (10:00..hey, I'm on vacation).

Fast forward to later in the day, around 3:00.  I end up in a shady part of town, and despite the fact I have my ipod, a digital camera, etc in the car, I don't want to leave my new jacket in the car while running errands because I'm afraid my ride might get car-jacked for it, I take it with me...on my person, of course.

By this time, it's freakin 73 degrees F outside, unbeknownst to me (until later).  Now, while I must admit, that I was toasty warm, I don't think I ever broke a sweat.  This Arc'teryx jacket has some serious breatheabilty.  One of my concerns up to this point has been overheating on warmer days on the slopes, but after today, that fear has somewhat dissipated...kind of like the moisture that surely built up in the jacket during today's urban crawl.

Now...how cold can she go??
post #67 of 73
Now you're getting the point, and the one that everyone was trying to get across to Mojoman - the performance of the Arctryx (and other high-end brands) stuff over a wide range of conditions is absolutely outstanding.

It doesn't matter if you're in lift serviced terrain, as long as it's got decent vertical, these jackets will perform extremely well under all conditions, from sunshine at the base, to howling winds and snow at the summit.

Lesser stuff will be fine for one or the other, but either you'll freeze at the peak or sweat at the base.

Had my Fission Ar at Flatton this weekend (not my fault), and it was brutally cold but the jacket laughed at it.
post #68 of 73
Arcteryx Venta on sale at SAC RIGHT NOW for $187!!!!
post #69 of 73
 I like my OR (Outdoor Research) Mentor Shell and a Patagonia R4 or R3 or R1 fleece for warmth. I almost always use the ¼ zip R2 + Mentor on dry bluebell days. The R4 comes in handy when I want to stay really warm on bad weather days. The breathability and customization (side zips and handwarmer flow-through zips) work fantastic to regulate breathability. Sometimes I wear an UnderArmor or Marmot performance longsleeve crew against the skin. Or lightweight Capilene. 

I've been doing the hardshell over fleece thing for 20 years and the system rarely lets me down. (Really, any manufacturer will do. I like Patagucci and Arcteryx, as well as OR and Mountain Hardwear — they all have bomber warrantys. Not so much a fan of TNF after several manufacturing defects when they took USA construction to Asia. (they still make the best tents, though IMHO.))

The layering system has it's plusses and minuses. Plusses include versatility and customization. Minuses are generally more prone to mismatching fit or performance; as well, as a bit of extra bulk. The new jackets by Patagonia like the Primo Down and Insulated Nitro are very intriguing as an all-in-one system. I personally own 2 different Nitro shells, and they are ridiculously bombproof, but a bit heavy for a shell in high aerobic activity.
post #70 of 73
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The Arcteryx Hercules turns out to be 2-in-1 in a lot of ways.  The heavy fleece negates needing too many layers underneath.  It did well in relatively varied conditions at Taos.  I did get warm on many occasions, but it did it's job and kept me dry and I never got cold on the lifts, despite snow, cold temps, and heavy winds.  I pretty much wore it over a mid-weight base layer and nothing else.

Overall, very satisfied with my purchase.

A few things I will look for in my next purchase will be some sort of powder skirt (removable), although the hercules does come down a little lower in the back to help out.  I still got a few wind blasts down the back on the lift and got some snow dumped in during a spill.

I also wish the cuffs were adjustable.  That would make it easier to deal with layers underneath and getting non-gauntlet gloves dealt with.

I now ski in a helmet, so I don't really miss the hood.  I have a serius baclava with face mask if it gets really cold and prefer to forgo the extra warmth a hood offers in exchange for less hassle and bulk.

I saw this jacket pop up on SAC or Tramdock recently at $168, which is a STEAL.
post #71 of 73
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What would be a good option for the cold and/or wet days?  Should I look at a completely separate hardshell or something that could be worn as an additional layer on top of the softshell?

Any suggestions?  Is event the way to go?
post #72 of 73
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What would be a good option for the cold and/or wet days?  Should I look at a completely separate hardshell or something that could be worn as an additional layer on top of the softshell?

Any suggestions?  Is event the way to go?
 
Yes, a hardshell should be the way to go.  I tried to ski with an umbrella once, but that really slowed me down.
post #73 of 73
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I ended up getting an OR Mentor shell and though I've yet to get it outside, I think I'm pretty set between that and the Arcteryx.  The OR is a little bigger cut, so layering underneath will be a non issue.  I could even get away with the Hercules underneath if really cold.

I like the flexibility of the Mentor jacket.  I've always been a fan of Outdoor Research's no nonsense approach to gear, and the Mentor is no exception.  As mentioned, it is light weight, and supposedly waterproof.  It has more venting than I would know what to do with (full side zips), so overheating shouldn't be a problem.  The only downside I can see is the roll-away hood seems a bit kludgy, and would be nice if it was removeable, but I'll trade that for the simplicity and weight.  This thing can pack down small.

 

Thanks everyone here for the solid advice.  I think my major soft-gear purchases should be done for now :-)

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