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Thread Starter 
I would appreciate comments and suggestions for a "short" ski (154-158 cm) with a sidecut radius of 11 to 12m, not for racing, but for quick turning in short radius turns at medium speeds, and not so stiff that it wears you out in 2 hours. It will probably have a small waist (67-70mm). Skier is male, 145 lbs, whose skill level approaches the "upper" side of the intermediate range on "good days" on well-groomed terrain. Thanks!
post #2 of 17
Not sure where you ski, but in the east, I'd say to check out the Head Suspershape Magnum. Will do all the above, which is pretty close to my style, with some versatility should you wish to let 'em run.
post #3 of 17
Blizzard SLR
post #4 of 17
Fischer RC4 Race SC or RX 8 Pro,
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thank you for the suggestions. While checking them out I have seen two others that seem to be in this class:  a Dynastar Contact Groove in 155cm, 118-66-102, R 11
and a Nordica Spitfire Pro in 154cm, 122-70-103, R12. Have any of you used them or know someone who has?

For Living Proof, I am in the west, the Sierra Nevada mountains, around Lake Tahoe most of the time.
post #6 of 17
 Kastle has a new consumer slalom ski coming out soon that looks like a winner.

If you don't want to wait, the Head iSL looks like a winner and so does the Nordica Doberman SL Pro (somehow the word pro has been co-opted to mean "not pro").
post #7 of 17
I second the thoughts on the Supershape Magnum. A ski I tried last year that really sounds like it might fit the bill is the Rossi CS 70. Note that the OP says he is an upper intermediate and wants a ski for "medium" speeds and doesn't want a super-demanding ski. The new incarnation of the Fischer Race SC is a really fun ski, but I found it slightly more exacting than the other two when I tried it last spring.
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by epic View Post

 Kastle has a new consumer slalom ski coming out soon that looks like a winner.

If you don't want to wait, the Head iSL looks like a winner and so does the Nordica Doberman SL Pro (somehow the word pro has been co-opted to mean "not pro").
 

Hi first post here.  Epic can you tell me how soon the new Kastle will be out- days, weeks, months?.  I'm so Impressed with my MX78 in 176 that I've been considering the RX at 168 to replace my Fischer SC PRO (165) and for that matter an RX 176 to replace my Progressor 9 at 175.  thx.
post #9 of 17
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Hi first post here.  Epic can you tell me how soon the new Kastle will be out- days, weeks, months?.  I'm so Impressed with my MX78 in 176 that I've been considering the RX at 168 to replace my Fischer SC PRO (165) and for that matter an RX 176 to replace my Progressor 9 at 175.  thx.
 

I can't tell you for sure, but I have seen and touched one pair, so I expect we'll see them soon.
post #10 of 17
Grant, you got PM.
post #11 of 17
Atomic D2 SL.
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
Everyone: thank you for the fine suggestions. Epic, no, I am not in a hurry, and I will try to find a Kastle vendor in the area (Lake Tahoe/Reno, Nv./ Truckee, Ca) I sense that some of the contributors to this forum are retail vendors, and I was hoping that they would go to their 2009-2010 catalogs and find the model that their suppliers make that fits in this "recreational slalom"/  dedicated "carver" category, i.e., narrow-waisted skis that do not pretend to be "all mountain".
One example: I am advised that Elan makes an SLX and an SL, but I can find no one with any practical experience on them to say that one is so stiff that you cannot stand it after a couple hours, while the other is the softer version that the same skier could use considerably longer - probably all day.
These days where many of the high end versions of slalom cut skis have two sheets of titanium or magnesium,  maybe it is a simple matter of putting only one layer of the metal in the "detuned" version.        This forum would be a good place to assemble the names of all the makes/ model that currently (2010) fit this category.    Thanks again.
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Head SuperShape.
post #14 of 17
i love my head supershapes.  i have a pair of atomic race stock skis which are great and allow for a bit more aggression and certainly give more back for more input effort, but when i just want to play around without going all out, the supershapes are on my feet every time.  I am currently 147lbs and can attest that the 165 length works very well.  I have had these skis for a few years and they have allowed my skiing to improve dramatically without feeling overwelming at the beginning.  overall, a good compromise between performance and comfort.  I ski 99% on groomed man-made snow.
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Grant, you got another PM.
post #16 of 17
Grant

A more budget oriented ski than the Super Shape or Super Shape Magnum also by head is the Icon 60 or Icon 80.  This is the line that is aimed at what you describe (frontside carver) but is far less expensive than the Supershape series.  Waist is 66mm.

I would suggest you try these and the other skis mentioned above to see what you like before committing your money.  I have skied all the Supershapes and the Icon 60 and 80.  For me I find the Icons a bit soft and too narrow.  However I outweight you by A LOT ...

Mike
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Grant

A more budget oriented ski than the Super Shape or Super Shape Magnum also by head is the Icon 60 or Icon 80.  This is the line that is aimed at what you describe (frontside carver) but is far less expensive than the Supershape series.  Waist is 66mm.

I would suggest you try these and the other skis mentioned above to see what you like before committing your money.  I have skied all the Supershapes and the Icon 60 and 80.  For me I find the Icons a bit soft and too narrow.  However I outweight you by A LOT ...

Mike
Or any left-over Head XRC "SW" ski.
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