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12-5-09 Very Lame Jackson Hole Ski Video

post #1 of 9
12/7/09 at 11:52am
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I'm experimenting with putting videos together, so here's my first attempt with a Flip camera.  Yes, it's totally lame but I'm in the learning process.

The skiing was on the white ribbon of death this past Saturday.  Jackson Hole Mountain Resort is open with the Teewinot and Apres Vous chairs running, which gives at total of about 2,000 vertical feet.  The skiing is actually very good, especially considering that almost every bit of snow we're skiing on came from a gun instead of heaven.

The bumpy, bouncy segment of video is my attempt at holding the camera out in front of me while sliding down Werner and Moran runs.  If you look closely, you'll see one of the founding members of the JH Air Force making turns.

More videos to come as more snow falls and my experience with video moves forward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_AWgeT-du4

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post #2 of 9
12/7/09 at 12:04pm
Not a bad first effort at all
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post #3 of 9
12/7/09 at 2:14pm
Well, I have to be honest:  The skiing looks pretty great and the picture quality is very good for such a small camera but the lack of image stabilization on that is BRUTAL!  

I present the following little video of mine not as an example of good scriptwriting, nor of any good skiing.  However the music I think is pretty sweet and sounds good cranked up loud. Mainly, if you just scroll through a few parts though you'll see how much easier it is on the brain with some image stabilization.

Vimeo compressed the heck out of this one though and there are a lot of artifacts not on the original tape and my weather was a bit "better," except for filming aspect of "better."   The quality of this on a DVD however is actually outstanding, even without it being HD, and it is very watchable (except for lame "humor" and skiing).

You can't beat the small cameras though for image quality vs. size, and just being able to have it there at all times.  My Sony TRV-900 is MUCH larger and a bit of a chore to haul around, but I have to say it's a lot easier on the optic nerves at the end of the day and I can watch it  with a beer and some cheeze doodles without having to hang onto my railing!  

Thanks for the video report!





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post #4 of 9
12/7/09 at 4:09pm
Oops.  Now you pulled your video, Bob! 

Hope I wasn't out of line, doing a cinematography critique in a trip report thread.  I was thinking this was more of a video technique post, so sorry if I hijacked it with my own lame video, and from skiing in another country no less! 

You are all now free to take potshots at any of our lame narration, clothing, and/or ski technique - whatever is deemed most repugnant. 
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post #5 of 9
12/7/09 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by carvemeister View Post

Oops.  Now you pulled your video, Bob! 

Hope I wasn't out of line, doing a cinematography critique in a trip report thread.  I was thinking this was more of a video technique post, so sorry if I hijacked it with my own lame video, and from skiing in another country no less! 

You are all now free to take potshots at any of our lame narration, clothing, and/or ski technique - whatever is deemed most repugnant. 

Hey, cm.

I honestly didn't pull it.  I think I have much thicker skin than THAT.

I'm not sure what happened, as it still existed on YouTube, but the embedded code didn't seem to download it. You can try again.  I think I edited it and added a new code that hopefully will continue to work.

As for the criticisms, that's no problem at all.  I agree that it's way too shaky.  I think that's partly a function of an exceedingly cheap camera.  I think "image stabilization" on that camera would mean you put it on a table and left it running.  It's also the fact that even though I was trying to ski as smoothly as I could, it would APPEAR that I don't ski as smoothly as I *THINK* I do. 

I actually have a very nice Canon HD video camera which is stabilized and all that stuff.  My only problem with it is that the avchd format seems to be quite convoluted to move from the camera to an acceptable editing software to a saved movie to YouTube.  As I learn more (and as we get more snow), I hope to do more of my videos with that.

Thanks for viewing!
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post #6 of 9
12/7/09 at 5:09pm
The picture quality on the newer HD Flip cameras is way better than the first gen cameras. They definately aren't good at POV for sure.
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post #7 of 9
12/9/09 at 6:40pm
Enjoyed both videos.  Way too much dirt showing up there in Jackson.  Snow dance needed.
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post #8 of 9
12/9/09 at 7:39pm
Nice to see some other east coast middle age tip pushers ski.
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post #9 of 9
12/15/09 at 6:40pm
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

... it would APPEAR that I don't ski as smoothly as I *THINK* I do. 


No chance, Bob.  You are about as smooth a skier as I have had the privilege of skiing with (including a couple of Demo Team guys I used to know).  Quiet, compact, and deceptively slippery smooth speed. 

Nice, fun video too.  I hope conditions out here are that good by January!

-Gian
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