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Help me choose a twintip for my son!

post #1 of 14
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Looking for a Xmas gift for my son and would love to get him a new pair of skis. 

He's 16 y.o., 5' 5" and 140 lbs.  He's a junior patroller at our local hill (Nashoba Valley).  He's a solid level 7-8 skier and will ski just about anything he can find.  He spends some time in the park, but isn't a park rat.  He'll hit some features, but isn't looking to score big air.  Loves playing in the woods.  A bit tentative in the bumps.

Currently on a pair of Magfire 06's, which we'll hang on to as his beater/patrol ski.

He'll be skiing mostly eastern terrain about 70-80% on-piste.

And of course, he wants a cool looking twin!

So ... cool twintip, more freeride than park oriented, decent edgehold, probably mid 80's to low 90's underfoot, soft enough so he can flex it, but stiff enough to hang on to eastern hardpack.

Appreciate any help!~
post #2 of 14
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Originally Posted by OldEasternSkier View Post

Looking for a Xmas gift for my son and would love to get him a new pair of skis. 

He's 16 y.o., 5' 5" and 140 lbs.  He's a junior patroller at our local hill (Nashoba Valley).  He's a solid level 7-8 skier and will ski just about anything he can find.  He spends some time in the park, but isn't a park rat.  He'll hit some features, but isn't looking to score big air.  Loves playing in the woods.  A bit tentative in the bumps.

Currently on a pair of Magfire 06's, which we'll hang on to as his beater/patrol ski.

He'll be skiing mostly eastern terrain about 70-80% on-piste.

And of course, he wants a cool looking twin!

So ... cool twintip, more freeride than park oriented, decent edgehold, probably mid 80's to low 90's underfoot, soft enough so he can flex it, but stiff enough to hang on to eastern hardpack.

Appreciate any help!~
 

The more research I do, the more the Line Prophet's impress me, and their graphics kick ass.  Just go with the 90 since he's more on piste.  Plus, if he gets "stuck" in powder, these should be pretty decent there too.  Don't match them with Marker Griffon's as everybody seems to like.  Pay the extra dough to get the Jester's as they are metal, not plastic.
post #3 of 14
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Line Prophet's impress me

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post #4 of 14
 172cm P90 would be a great start for him.

PEs would be better at everything but crud, and groomer though overall though they are pretty similar
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 172cm P90 would be a great start for him.

PEs would be better at everything but crud, and groomer though overall though they are pretty similar


 

sorry, PE's? 
post #6 of 14
K2 Public Enemy, or Extreme as they are called this season.
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
How are the P90s in the park?

Again, the park isn't his 1st choice of terrain, but he does hit some boxes, rails and jumps occasionally.  He's also working on riding switch and loves it when he can pass me going backwards
post #8 of 14
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How are the P90s in the park?

Again, the park isn't his 1st choice of terrain, but he does hit some boxes, rails and jumps occasionally.  He's also working on riding switch and loves it when he can pass me going backwards
 

The main problem with your question/request, is that he is going to be on-piste most frequently.  I honestly haven't heard much of anything about these as far as rails and things, but I jump stuff all the time.  Not quite sure why you would want a really good ski for sliding on metal, but to each his own. I love passing people going backwards.  I would assume that the metal matrix design would keep it too stiff for the half pipe, but that's not what it's designed for.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Agreed ... skiing on metal is not my idea of fun, but then I'm not 16 :)

No worries on the half pipe as the local hill doesn't have one.  Mostly jumps and the odd box or rail.

The funny thing is that there's some tension between the patrollers and the park crew at our little hill and although there are more guys his age on the park crew, he's taken on the patrollers attitude and thinks they're a bunch of slackers.  As a result, the park has lost its "cool factor" in his mind (which is just fine with me!)

If he hits the park, it's mostly because he's bored with the groomers.  When we're up north, we can usually find some glades or bumps that up the fun factor without having to seek out a park, but he'll usually take a run or two through the park just to see what they've got going on.

So it sounds like the Prophet might well fit the bill. (Also fine with me ... I've been wanting to try 'em out myself :)
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Agreed ... skiing on metal is not my idea of fun, but then I'm not 16 :)

No worries on the half pipe as the local hill doesn't have one.  Mostly jumps and the odd box or rail.

The funny thing is that there's some tension between the patrollers and the park crew at our little hill and although there are more guys his age on the park crew, he's taken on the patrollers attitude and thinks they're a bunch of slackers.  As a result, the park has lost its "cool factor" in his mind (which is just fine with me!)

If he hits the park, it's mostly because he's bored with the groomers.  When we're up north, we can usually find some glades or bumps that up the fun factor without having to seek out a park, but he'll usually take a run or two through the park just to see what they've got going on.

So it sounds like the Prophet might well fit the bill. (Also fine with me ... I've been wanting to try 'em out myself :)
post #11 of 14
ya i think the Prophet 90 would be an awesome ski for him. Also you might want to try out the volkl bridge, i really loved it and it's the same type of ski as the Prophet 90.

good luck!
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by OldEasternSkier View Post

Agreed ... skiing on metal is not my idea of fun, but then I'm not 16 :)

No worries on the half pipe as the local hill doesn't have one.  Mostly jumps and the odd box or rail.

The funny thing is that there's some tension between the patrollers and the park crew at our little hill and although there are more guys his age on the park crew, he's taken on the patrollers attitude and thinks they're a bunch of slackers.  As a result, the park has lost its "cool factor" in his mind (which is just fine with me!)

If he hits the park, it's mostly because he's bored with the groomers.  When we're up north, we can usually find some glades or bumps that up the fun factor without having to seek out a park, but he'll usually take a run or two through the park just to see what they've got going on.

So it sounds like the Prophet might well fit the bill. (Also fine with me ... I've been wanting to try 'em out myself :)
 

    I  would definitely go with the P90. It sounds like your son is a little more into skiing All Mountain and skiing in the woods then he is skiing in the park. And that is exactly what the Prophets are designed for. However, they do have a twin tip so you can ski switch. They also have a fatty base and fatty edge so they are very durable ski, good for hitting rails or boxes. Also if you are looking for a binding for them go with somthin like the Salomon Sth12 is a great binding...and it looks wicked cool with the P90s =)
 
BTW here is a pic of my 2010 Prophets with Salomon Sth12 bindings







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Originally Posted by Downhillin99 View Post

ya i think the Prophet 90 would be an awesome ski for him. Also you might want to try out the volkl bridge, i really loved it and it's the same type of ski as the Prophet 90.

good luck!
 


   Yes both skis have similarities but remeber the Bridge is more park oriented so it does have a softer flex then the P90...but either the P90 or the Bridge you really cant go wrong...
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
Almost there ...

I've been leaning toward the Prophets and found last year's model online for $429. 

A couple of questions ...

One shop said they dropped Line because of quality problems ... anyone know anything about quality issues on recent years Line skis?

Any changes between '09 and '10 (besides graphics)?

Finally, a local shop suggested the 4FRNT ARV MSP (Edit:  Oops ... been mixing up my TLA's recently) as "comparable" ... seems to be in the same category, but with a longer radius/less sidecut than the Prophets.  Any thought about how they would compare up to the P90s? and would they be appropriate for a smaller skier like my son?

Thanks again for all the help!
Edited by OldEasternSkier - 12/8/09 at 9:22pm
post #14 of 14
you could go for the VOLKL Bridge because that ski seems to really fit the bill and not worry about it, but I would take my chances on the Prophet.  It's supposed to be more lively and playful.  However, if you get the VOLKL's, when he sees how ugly they are, he might puke (which would sort of match the skis), so bring a bucket.  On the other hand, the 2010 Line Prophet's are a work of art, literally.  I would go Prophet.
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