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GS skiing problem with inside ski

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Thread Starter 
 I had the opportunity to try skiing GS a little while ago and noticed that I had a tendency to start skiing on my inside ski through some of the more difficult parts. I know that I need to stay on my outside ski but couldn't figure out how to fix it. I also noticed that once I got on my inside ski I would start to slide around some of the turns. It didn't feel like i was sliding my tails so much as my entire ski was sliding sideways. Was that a result from not being able to pressure as much from the inside ski or something different? 
post #2 of 6
Hi Lonewolf!

A lot of folks have observed racers starting their turns with "inclination" (where the upper body is angled the same as the lower body) and then transitioning into an "angulated" position (where the upper body is more vertical than the lower body). We know we want to get the body to the inside of the new turn quickly in order to help round out the upper half of the new turn. Inclining or "leaning" into the new turn is one good way to do that. But if we don't have a forward component to the movement, it's easy to get too much weight on the inside ski. We occasionally see racers pull off miracle turns totally on their inside ski and instructors do inside ski drills, but these are hard to do because the inside ski won't work as efficiently as the outside ski. It's easier to overload the inside ski than the outside ski. That will cause you to skid through the turn.

There are two schools of thought for how to fix this. One school says to manage ski pressure by lifting the inside ski (tail more than the tip) as you start the new turn. This method causes you to topple to the inside of the new turn and forces pressure onto the outside ski. The other school says to let ski pressure be a result of other movements. If you finish a turn with your upper body (hips to shoulders) pointed to the inside of the new turn, it's easier to let your body flow into the new turn at around a 45 degree angle to the skis ("fore-agonally") instead of a 90 degree angle (leaning in). The exact angle is not important. You do higher angles for sharper turns and less for turns more down the fall line. The difference here is that this movement lets pressure build up on the outside ski and puts you in a position to stand against this pressure. If you master both approaches, you'll be a more versatile skier. Either approach can help you rip GS turns without skidding.
post #3 of 6
It's very common for skiers going from a smaller radius ski to a longer radius GS cut ski to find themselves falling onto their inside ski.  It takes a bit of time for your bodies old movement patterns to adjust to the GS ski's slower turning characteristics. 

This sound familiar?  You tip into the turn and put your skis on edge, but the skis just don't seem to turn.  Your body is already moving inside, anticipating the skis turning like your slalom skis do, but those dang GS skis just don't come along with you.  Body is moving into the turn, skis are still tracking straight ahead, and all of a sudden you're riding your inside ski.

The solution is you have to be more patient.  Make your body wait for the skis to turn after you put them on edge.  Don't anticipate.  Begin your turns by tipping your knees into the turn first, trying to keep your pelvis over the top of your skis until the skis begin to turn.  Once you start to turn then subtly let your pelvis tip into the turn too.  Do that for a while, until your body figures out how the skis respond to being tipped on edge. Before you know it you'll be skiing in autopilot again, with the inside ski issue a thing of the past. 
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Thread Starter 
 Thanks for both inputs. I actually am not a racer but the Air Force Academy Team is only a club sport here so they let anyone who wants to tryout. It was a fairly cheap weekend and presented a cool opportunity. I actually tried out last year but didn't understand enough of skiing technique to understand my issues. The tryouts consisted of both GS and slalom and in both cases I as weighting o much on my inside ski. 
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You have a couple of great answers so far - definitely agree with them.  If you are getting more "inclination" than "angulation" as theRusty suggested might be the case, another thing you might like to try is to simply reach toward the outer ankle of your outside leg.  That should force an angle between your torso and your legs which should result in more pressure on the outside ski.  

post #6 of 6
 Simple fix is learn to balance on just the outside ski a while.  as my friends from Texas like to say just "hunker down and mash on it!!"  You will find something to do with the other ski when you can ski the outside one better.  
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