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post #31 of 38
I am usually skiing a ski with a waist dimension of 64mm, and I will use it in most conditions. But when I really want to have fun in deep and cruddy or bottomless conditions give me a ski with some waist.
No disrespect intended, but 71mm waist is not wide anymore. I am talkin'84mm, actually the brand of ski I use just came out with a 106 waisted ski.

the saying, "bringing a sword to a gun fight" comes to mind when I think of skiing with a 64mm waisted ski on opening day in the Back Bowls.

best regards,
post #32 of 38
BRAVO Si and Bob!!

Nice cogent and accurrate points. I would agree with you guys 100 percent. In additon to the stance thing I would like to add that SCSA, you may have been a bit too far forward on your skis causing your balance to be off due to inability to power the skis through the snow. Not that this is a huge effort in crud but if your stance is forward with your feet tucked to much under your hips, you lose the abilty to balance against the resistance put up by the snow AND you cannot aborb the varying snow and allow for accurate retraction, absorbiton in transition. The legs need to come right up inot the belly and out the other side smoothly. If you're too far forward, you bind up or buckle at the waist and you can get shot out of the turn or you get stuck in the snow with your skis running straight and you sweating your cahones off trying to swing them in the snow through the falline!! sometimes.

To accentuate the retraction/absorbition function of your legs try to sink you hips down skightly AND then to stay centered so your shins remain snug against your boots, by leaning your shoulders forward just enough to get your balance back on the balls of your feet. This way you can handle snow variations and allow for a smooth transition move.

Speed and long radius turns can be your friend in crud snow. Speed control by turn shape.

I could go but this should help a bit to smooth it out. Stay true to your good groomed run style and footwork we all have discuseed and have fun. Log as much vert as possible!!

Hope this helps.

post #33 of 38
SCSA talking about skiing tough conditions at Vail: ... So it was a great day. But, what days aren't, eh?

Bravo, SCSA! Now that is an attitude that I admire. With all the rain we have been getting in the East, I would take crud and chop any day, just to get a few turns.

So much good advice on this thread. Too bad many of us can only dream of what we would do in the conditions described by SCSA. Soon, soon.
post #34 of 38
Abstem, I see there's a lot of you guys on the " it's a push off move ". But how did it get stemmed in the first place, eh? Excess rotation of the ankle of the outside ski at the end of the turn? Lack of weight on the outside ski at the end of the turn with rotation thrown in? Is this a by product of moves we made at the end of the old turn, or a move to start the new turn? Hummmm?------------Wigs : But not really.
post #35 of 38
Moocho thanks to all for the great advice. I've added it to my files and I'll review it before my next big mountain day.

In the mean time, back to the bunny hill. My story is that you don't get better skiing, you get better practicing -- I'm sticking with it.

Now that I've got a few big days in I'm going to go work on some primary movements; particularly the releasing movements. Take a few days and go over at Union Creek. I'm all excited. I don't know what juices me more -- practicing or skiing!

See ya on the bunny hill
post #36 of 38

Don't rush over to Union Creek-it won't be open for a few more weeks. Minor matter of a fire in the cafeteria this past week.

The Timberline Express opened this weekend but only for limited skiing.

Keep turning!!
post #37 of 38
SCSA, I think it is worth referring to some of the concepts that were brought up in the "automaticity" thread. I know that some were not enamored with my use of that term but here I am just talking about the difference between "letting" things happen and "making" things happen. Both have a very important place in improving our skiing. You said:

"Myself, I'm going back to the practice hill my next time out. Going to work on releasing more. My release movements must be off, that's why I was having to push off. I think. I hope."

I think the first part of this is always a great idea. The more you work successfully with "release movements" the more you will master and build confidence in them. The second part I'm not so sure of. In order to get them to work in the tougher environment you described you can go 2 directions, thinking about technique either more or less.

Bob Barnes, Eski, and others have given you great technical considerations to think about and use. It is well worth it to try and employ these next time you find yourself in thick heavy stuff. On the other hand, there is a magical moment that can occur when you just forget everything and then find yourself doing exactly what you practiced on the groomed in heavy powder or cut-up. That is why I made the suggestions I did, I was just encouraging you to put yourself into a situation where it was more likely that the moves you have practiced so much would come into play on their own (automatically).

From reading your posts I think that perhaps you are using the "cerebral" approach a little too much of the time (I could be off base here). I am a strong advocate for finding your own proper balance between this type of approach and the "just let it go and see what happens" approach. Of course manipulating the environment to increase your chances of success (i.e. using fatter skis) is something that I think can often help you find a connection (between technique and terrain) like the one you're trying to make.

Hope this makes some sense, "Psycho" Si
post #38 of 38
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>My story is that you don't get better skiing, you get better practicing -- I'm sticking with it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SCSA--that was a most quotable quote! Practice makes permanence. We get better at WHATEVER we practice--and skiing IS practice, of course. But if we practice BAD skiing, we will get GOOD at bad skiing!

Skiing, and focused practice--we need both if we are improve continuously. That's what my "20-60-20 Rule" is all about--see HOW TO IMPROVE (and still have fun!) .

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
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