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Modern Ski Clothing Sizes

post #1 of 16
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I recently picked up a TNF Windstopper in a men's size large.  I've historically worn that size, but I can squeeze in to a medium or fill out an XL in most brands too.  Anyway, the shoulders, sleeves, and waist diameter if this newer (not brand new) jacket fit perfectly.  However, the length of the torso goes almost halfway down my hips.

I pondered this for a day or two then came to the conclusion that it might be that today's ski jackets are sized to accommodate these pants:


Or at least this:



Are ski jackets now longer because people wear low rise and baggy pants?
post #2 of 16
Heh, I was wondering the same thing.  I recently picked up a Technine hoody (77% off, woohoo!) and it hangs so low that no one can see my stylin' boxers.... even if I don't wear pants!
post #3 of 16
 I dont sag my pants at all, whats the point, but a longer jacket means less snow up your ass.
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 I dont sag my pants at all, whats the point, but a longer jacket means less snow up your ass.

It's hard to dig in your pants pockets for stuff, and it just feels weird and makes you look like your legs are too short for your body.
post #5 of 16
Maybe you guys need to grow?

Im 6'5 with a linebacker-ish build and find most ski jackets and pants too small/short. I actually use Burton pants and jackets to ski in because of their generous cuts.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by Mdnitedrftr View Post

Maybe you guys need to grow?

Im 6'5 with a linebacker-ish build and find most ski jackets and pants too small/short. I actually use Burton pants and jackets to ski in because of their generous cuts.
You should stock up now while the trends are in your favor.  I've got a ton of orange gear in my closet
post #7 of 16
I've noticed the same thing.  I am only 5'8" and recently picked up an Oakley jacket and pants from Steep & Cheap.  My friends kept bugging me to retire my 80's jacket and this year I finally pulled the trigger.  I had to get a small in the jacket to get the right fit, and it's still a little long.  The pants are more baggy than I would like, but I'll probably live with it since the waist fits well and the next size down will probably be too small.
post #8 of 16
Since we're on the subject help me figure this one out. I bought a pair of ski pants off the web. They are Peak brand and I guess they are really snowboard pants since they didn't have the cuff edge protectors. Anyway they have a feature I've never seen. Inside the waist there is a "powder skirt". Yea, it's just like a powder skirt on a jacket. I've never seen this. My wife insists that it's so you can wear the waist around your crotch and the skirt goes at your waist. Duh?
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
...they have a feature I've never seen. Inside the waist there is a "powder skirt". Yea, it's just like a powder skirt on a jacket. I've never seen this. My wife insists that it's so you can wear the waist around your crotch and the skirt goes at your waist. Duh?
That's ludicrous!  Everybody knows that sagging is proof that your Gentleman's Equipment is robust enough to keep your trousers from falling down.  "Powder skirt". Pffft.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post



That's ludicrous!  Everybody knows that sagging is proof that your Gentleman's Equipment is robust enough to keep your trousers from falling down. 
 
Really??
I though it was so that other robust males could more easily breach your flank without the need to drop your drawers.
post #11 of 16
 While we're on topic,
MrTC usually wears an XL in his work coats, (Carhardt and the like) but when he bought Oakley ski jacket(s) last year and the year before, he ended up fitting a Large quite nicely, while swimming in the XL.

Meanwhile, I normally wear a Medium or size 8 in most jackets, but in a ski jacket I need a Large or size 10, wearing a size 6 pants(Jeans and such) I need to get a size 10 ski pants.

Can someone tell me why men's sizes are going one direction while the women's are going in a different direction?
post #12 of 16
I was reading an article about how clothig manufacturers in general are making thngs longer and wider to accomodate the ever-increasing waistlines of average Americans. A large now fills the bill for what used to be an XL. I don't know if this would translate to ski clothing, however, but I have noticed they have been making ski jackets longer. I think it just might be current trends to go for the longer, baggy look in mens ski apparel. Women really don't seem to be into this trend.
post #13 of 16

Baggy men's clothes is a relatively new thing.  They always used to run small as well.
I always figured it was a matter of Euro designers trying to make us Americans feel bad.

post #14 of 16
The reason many jackets are longer is because of snowboarding. The brands mentioned (TNF, Oakley, Technine), either market to both snowsport demographics, or primarily to snowboarders. The longer length is less to compensate for saggy pants as it is to be practical for the vagaries of snowboarding. Snowboarders have to sit down on the snow. Yes, it's annoying when they do it in bad spots, but the simple fact is that we have to do it sometimes. Sitting down on the snow can sometime lead to a wet, cold butt. So a longer jacket creates more of an overlap between your pants and jacket, reducing the probability that there will be a gap that will let in snow.

Also, the trend in ski apparel has gone very sharply away from bib-style ski bottoms, and towards regular pants, worn at the waist. In a ski bib, you would never have to worry about a pants/jacket gap, so jackets could be shorter. Now with regular pants, the possibility of a gap exists, so jackets need to be longer. 
post #15 of 16
Stop complaining, someday you might be thankful for the X-tra long coat.

post #16 of 16
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Originally Posted by freeski919 View Post

The reason many jackets are longer is because of snowboarding.

OIC, that explains my skooch legged pants too

Longer jacket might not be a bad thing on days when the chairs are getting dumped on
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