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Global Vacation Network - Ski Show SCAM Alert, Don't fall for it like we did

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Warning to all of you attending ski shows and happen to stumble on a booth for Global Vacation Network.  My wife & I like many were filling out sweepstakes at different booths and filled one out at Global Vacation Network.  About a week or so later we got a phone call from someone named Kathy who told us we WON a 7 night stay at either Breckenridge or Park City.  All we had to do is show up at their office, attend a 90 presentation, then present 2 forms of ID and our prize certificates would be given to us.  We would then have 45 days to decide which area and what dates we wanted.  According to Kathy, the prize would have to be used this year.  So what happened, we went to the office, they heard of Kathy explaining she worked in marketing and not out of this office.  We gave them our gift code and sat in on a 90 minute presentation of their company and services.  We then sat with a rep and explained that we weren't interested in their product.  When we went to claim the prize, the people in the office knew nothing about it, they gave us a piece of paper to fill out and told us our certificates would be in the mail in 4 to 6 weeks and then travel would have to take place 120 days from that.  Do the math folks, that's late spring!  We explained what we where told and the person who gave us the paper said, "no problem, just log on to view the properties".  When we got home and logged on, guess what, no properties in CO or UT.  This cost me 70 miles in the car and 4 hours of my time.  STAY AWAY FROM GLOBAL VACATION NETWORK  and if you win a prize don't waste your time trying to claim it.  It's all a big scam!!! 
post #2 of 22
Bummer. Sorry to hear of the troubles.

The problem was, after sitting in on the 90-minute sales pitch, you said you weren't interested in buying their product. At that point, they have no use for you and will blow you off. Once that happens, they make redeeming the prizes as difficult and cumbersome as possible, knowing that most people won't bother.  
post #3 of 22
I guess you've never seen the Asspen episode of South Park.
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
OK we were lied to, but we spoke to this women 3 times and asked very specific questions.  As a follow up, I got a call from their corporate office today and told them the story.  They also had no idea what this women was talking about.  Guess she gets paid by getting people in the chairs, say whatever she needs to say and dam the consequences.  Oh well, live & learn!!!
post #5 of 22
 That crap is very common here.

Generally a timeshare sales / give a vacation for listening spiel.

Don't ever take the WI Dells reputation for granted, full of crap like that.
post #6 of 22

Technically, you probably weren't lied to, as the fineprint of the sweepstakes form you signed probably had all the subtle details hidden in there somewhere. 'Sweepstakes' type raffles are really means to get your contact info and demographics. In addition to trying to get you to buy something, the information is also sold to marketing consultants who in turn sell the information to other vendors looking to pitch their products. They know you are interested in skiing and travel, so don't be surprised if you start getting e-mails and calls from other vendors in the industry. 
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post #7 of 22
Thread Starter 
Actually, the form only asked for our name, address & number on a blank sheet of paper and it was put into a raffle.  No fine print was anywhere to be seen.  Believe me, I looked for it. 
post #8 of 22
But when you attended the presentation, did you sign anything?
post #9 of 22
Thanks for the alert.

I don't buy all the response of "it's your own fault for believing the sales pitch"!

Time share sales are high pressure sales. No question about that. But I've been to several time share sales without buying anything. And I ALWAYS got what they promised, EVERY TIME!

For many, the value of the "prize", ultimately, isn't really worth the time wasted. But that's a different matter. If they show up at a ski show, offer time share at ski resort, then they're creating the expectation for making that available as prize! When they don't, they lied. 

Should anyone buy time share? A lot of poeple say no. But if you want to buy time share, would you buy from a property that lie the way this resort does? Or do you steer well clear of it? 

Again, thanks for the warning. 
post #10 of 22
Thread Starter 
Since I have practically have no legal recourse, web sites like this are the best way to get the word out. 
post #11 of 22
Don't forget to report it to the better business bureau.
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
My wife is reporting it to the BBB and to answer the other question above, we signed nothing!
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by bob4snow View Post
 All we had to do is show up at their office, attend a 90 presentation
Honestly, that was your cue to just hang up the phone, right there.
post #14 of 22
Thread Starter 
Taylormatt, your right but this wasn't promoted as show up and you'll get, it was "YOU WON", but you need to go to our office and pick it up.  If the call said, you could get a _____ if you show up for the presentation, I would have hung up.  Anyway, I did know that all we could loose was gas & time and guess what, that's what we lost. 
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 

UPDATE, I'll give Global credit for one thing, they have already made a couple of phone calls apologizing and according to the last person I talked to this "Kathy" in their marketing department is in deep &%$#@?.  Just to be clear, I don't necessarily blame Global, I blame this person who lied!

post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by bob4snow View Post

... it was "YOU WON", but you need to go to our office and pick it up.  

Had them too.


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Originally Posted by bob4snow View Post

 I don't necessarily blame Global, I blame this person who lied!

I do and the person; don't let the company fool you, they know whats going on, they wrote the script.
post #17 of 22
I think it's both.

The company in hiring people who lie are responsible for the lies their "representative" made while on their payroll.

They should be allowed to make amends to remedy such "mistake" by their employee. Although the amends should be more than just an empty "sorry". If I were in the position, I would for example send out a gas coupon for the drive. And take it out of the pay check of the employeee.

However, if it's the company that's hiding behind their employee, they would do nothing. And you should treat that company accordingly.  
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by bob4snow View Post

according to the last person I talked to this "Kathy" in their marketing department is in deep &%$#@?. 

Sure she is....don't believe it for a minute. Let me guess, you were told Kathy was promising things she couldn't, etc, and management was dealing with it.

Have you received your prize? Pretty sure not; they are just telling you they are dealing with Kathy to keep you quiet. Heck of a lot cheaper to keep one person on the payroll that phones pissed off people to tell them that "Kathy was outside of her limits" than it would be to give you an actual prize. They probably piss of 50 people per week. WHat would that cost in terms of 7 night stays at resorts? Cheaper to play the "Management is pissed at Kathy" card.
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
Well, that's why I posted this warning.  People represent companies and the company "should" be responsible for what their people say.  I only gave the update to give Global the benefit of the doubt but I knew the moment we got their we weren't walking out with anything but a headache.  I did remind them that information regarding their business practice has a tendency to go viral on the Internet.....  I'm almost 30 years in sales and have no illusions, but sharp business practice MUST be stopped. 
post #20 of 22
why don't you post Kathy's phone # so we can call her.
post #21 of 22
Hi Bob,

 I am thinking about doing an update to this story because I noticed more and more people are becoming victims.


Would you be able to do a phone interview with me sometime next week? I would like to ask you some questions about what happened.

Please send me a message on here so we can set something else.

Thanks,

Jason Rzucidlo
AmericaJR.com
post #22 of 22
Hi Bob,

I am doing an update to this story because I noticed more and more people are becoming victims.


Would you be able to do a phone interview with me sometime next week? I would like to ask you some questions about what happened.

Please send me a private message so we can set something up.

Thanks,

Jason Rzucidlo
AmericaJR.com
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