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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I am 20 years old 6'3" 200 lbs. I have been skiing since I was younger and consider myself around a level 7-8? I have mostly skied groomers, but I am trying to mix it up alot more this year.
I have been looking at skis online now for about a month and cannot decide what to get. I was mainly focusing on the Volkl Bridge and the Prophet 90s. Those both seemed to fit what I am looking for (something that can handle groomers and the east coast, but will also work well for the west and some off-piste action). I have also considered the Watea 94s and the Mojo 94s.

If anyone has any advice/experience with those mentioned skis, or something similiar, I would appreciate it.
Also, if you know of any good deals that would help.

-Bill
post #2 of 19
I just wrote this on another thread, every ski is some sort of compromise and their is no such thing as a one ski quiver.  If you've only skied groomers, you have a lot to learn about powder, trees, junk etc.  The skis you mentioned above are great choices so I'm not going to through anything new into the mix except that you need to realize that a ski that's great for varied conditions out west won't be so good for eastern ice.  Based on how you described yourself, I would stay between 80 & 90 mm at the waist.  A wider ski is great for the soft stuff but if you have little or no experience in very varied conditions, a wider ski might do more harm then good.  OK I said I wouldn't suggest anything but I will anyway, look at the K2 Explorer, Volkl AC30 & 50.  Great all around choices and will help move you up to the more varied conditions you're looking for.  Remember, a wider ski that claims to do everything well doesn't make up for poor form or technique. 
post #3 of 19
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Originally Posted by bob4snow View Post

  I would stay between 80 & 90 mm at the waist.

 
?????  Maybe, maybe not.

I have heard great things about the Bridge.  Have skied the Karma.  I think the Bridge would be an excellent choice.  You can learn how to ski the soft stuff on that ski and it will perform.  178 at your ht/wt would be good - on the short side.

Not that qualified, however.
 

 
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advice. You don't think 178 would be too short?
post #5 of 19
 I'm 6'3 215/230 after Thanksgiving, my Midwest ski is Metron 9+, 178's.
I demoed the prophet 90's (mid 170's length) on hard pack, they handled well.
Always hear good things about them.
post #6 of 19
I would go with the Volkl Bridge- always hear great things about them, and they can definitely handle western powder and the east.  Hell, they're called the "Bridge" because they bridge the gap between eastern and western skiing/
post #7 of 19
...something that can handle groomers and the east coast, but will also work well for the west and some off-piste action...

Take a look at the K2 obSETHed. I've owned mine for two seasons and while they aren't the only pair I own, they're certainly the most versatile and can easily manage the variety of conditions you'll encounter.
post #8 of 19
 P.S. I'm 6'5" 225 lbs and have a habit of abusing my gear but the obSETHed's are none the worse for wear. For your size I'd go with the 189's.
post #9 of 19
Acutally, I heard they were called the Bridge because they bridge the gap between park and all mountain ski.  In fact, I believe that's how they post it on their web site. 
post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 
I went into a local ski shop today and they were saying the nordica nitrous would work well for me. this is an entirely different kind of ski. and it's also only 78 cm underfoot. any opinions on that ski and which type of ski would work better for me. granted I have skied mostly on-piste, I have become a good skier and I'm trying to do alot more off-piste stuff this year.
post #11 of 19
if you want to get ski that will do everthing well go for the volkl mantra pretty good at most things
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by bob4snow View Post

OK I said I wouldn't suggest anything but I will anyway, look at the K2 Explorer, Volkl AC30 & 50.  Great all around choices and will help move you up to the more varied conditions you're looking for.  Remember, a wider ski that claims to do everything well doesn't make up for poor form or technique. 

You seem to be stuck on these, suggesting them for just about everything from park to west and off-piste.

Look, West of PA keep the AC's at home. They're good groomer skis, but this guy says "something that can handle groomers and the east coast, but will also work well for the west and some off-piste action". AC's are the last thing I'd bring to go 1) west, and 2) off-piste.

Anyway, the Bridge is probably a good choice.
post #13 of 19
 2010 Gotama is the safe bet. Seriously. Go with a ski that won't leave you with buyer's remorse in a year... 
post #14 of 19
Take a look at the Armada ARV also, great all-mountain ski.....
post #15 of 19
I have heard really good things about the 2009 Blizzard Titan Cronus. 88 mm underfoot which would probably suit your needs best. Skis like the Nitrous and AC's from Volkl can be very good for all mountain, but if you are a very good skiier (which you say you are) a midfat will really utilize your talents, not just make up for lack thereof.
Just my 2 cents.  
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by wscanl01 View Post

I am 20 years old 6'3" 200 lbs. I have been skiing since I was younger and consider myself around a level 7-8? I have mostly skied groomers, but I am trying to mix it up alot more this year.
I have been looking at skis online now for about a month and cannot decide what to get. I was mainly focusing on the Volkl Bridge and the Prophet 90s. Those both seemed to fit what I am looking for (something that can handle groomers and the east coast, but will also work well for the west and some off-piste action). I have also considered the Watea 94s and the Mojo 94s.

If anyone has any advice/experience with those mentioned skis, or something similiar, I would appreciate it.
Also, if you know of any good deals that would help.

-Bill
Hi Bill,

Those are all good skis!  I like the Prophet 90, Watea 94, and Mojo 94, and haven't skied the Bridge. Something around 85-95mm underfoot is probably what you want to shoot for; it is a great true 50/50 range, so you are in the ballpark. Get much narrower and you will give up something on one end (lack of float primarily, and sometimes groomer skis are really stiff and hard to handle in variable conditions), get much wider and you will also make trade-offs (slow initiation, truck-like steering and lack of edge hold). Of course, many skiers prefer will place a premium on one aspect of performance or another, so what people choose will vary.  I would avoid purchasing something outside of that window unless you have personally demoed the gear and know it will work; I hear more than my fair share of buyer's remorse from customers who took a flyer on a ski at recommendation of a fanboy, but realized their mistake once on the snow.   I personally had my day in/day out ski an Elan 888, and found it very good for pretty much everything from groomer duty to up to 12" of new, which covers about 97% of the days I ski.  There are several skis around similar to that kind of do-it-all ski: Volkl Mantra, Dynastar Mythic Rider, Blizzard Cronus (mentioned earlier), K2 Outlaw, Blizzi 8.7 and Atlas, Stockli VXL, Head Peak 88 or iM88, Mojo 94, Nordica Enforcer, Kastle MX88 or MX98: the list is long, as that is probably the most common ski width range out west.  What I personally look for is a ski that is moderate to somewhat stiff flex, not too much sidecut, in a longer length that I can handle (at 5 foot 9, for myself, 175-180cm).  You may need a bit more width for your weight than I do mine.  Hopefully I never have to resort to a 1-ski quiver, but if I did, I would definitely be looking right at that window.  Something that allows the fewest trade-offs for where and how I ski; I definitely don't like to be limited in any way by gear.  

If you are looking at the Watea 94 or Mythic, we have them on closeout right now.  Mojo 94's too, if you are small.  Click the link at the bottom of my page for the thread.  Otherwise, happy hunting! 
post #17 of 19

If you mostly ski groomers, why not look at carving skis. You still can get a mid fat that can hold an edge as well. 131/90/117 is the side cut of my carv skis.

post #18 of 19
 I like the Nordica skis like the Top Fuel, Jet Fuel, Hell Cat.  They are all have similar (beefy) construction and vary by width.  You can get them in metal or carbon versions.  I used a Jet Fuel (metal) as a one ski quiver for a season in JH.  There are trade offs of course.  These Nordicas are great on hard snow, good in crud, Ok in bumps (if your already good at bumps), and acceptable in powder.  The Mantra also seems like a good candidate.  I grew up in PA, but haven't skied the east for a few decades.  I think these skis have enough hard snow ability to be good in the east and are still good out here.  My current one ski quiver for the west is the Gotoma.  I would also look at the Argos, Monster, Watea, Prophet..... for a western bias.  

I'm currently tying to pick out a new ski for myself and having a very hard time.  Have Fun!   
post #19 of 19
To the OP:

So...............are you confused yet?

SJ
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