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post #1 of 10
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FYI: It seems there is a bit of mis-information going around regarding the 2010 Head ski lineup. I know that the passing of the old Monster 88 has been much lamented by people on Epic.  I did some research, and also spoke with the rep regarding the 2010 Head lineup. I came up with the following information:

These skis have been changed for 2010:

Mojo 94: renamed, some of the metal has been removed

Monster 88-Peak 88: the metal laminate has been removed, and replaced by a liquidmetal shell underneath the topsheet.  Now a softer ski., especially at the tip. 

The following skis have not been changed:

Monster 82-Peak 82: same ski that has been produced the past 3 years.

Monster 78-Peak 78: the same ski that has been produced the past 2 years.


We pretty much had come to this conclusion at the shop, by comparing last year's skis with this year's.  It was easy to set up a defection table, with a weight at the mid-body of the ski, to measure relative deflection (and therefore stiffness) at the mid-body of the ski. The Peak 88 is definitely softer, the excess deflection is easily measurable.  The 78 and 82 measured the same as last year's skis we have at the shop. They also feel identical to last year's skis when hand-flexing them.

So, if you are an aggressive skier and want a replacement for your old Monster 88, the new Peak 88 may not be the best choice.  On the other hand, if you found the old Monster 88 a little too stiff and aggressive, the new Peak 88 may be just what you are looking for.  

If you heard great things about the old Monster 82 (great GS-feeling ski, super powerful crudbuster and great hard snow edgehold) or the Monster 78 (awesome frontside carver, very good crud and bump ski, maybe the most versatile 50/50 ski around) then don't sweat the change; the Peak stuff is the same.  In fact, either of these skis makes a great first half of a 2 ski quiver. I stil haven't decided if I am going with the Peak 78 in 177cm, Peak 82 in 177cm, Blizzard Magnum 8.1 in 172cm, Sultan 85 in 178cm, or something else as my "frontside-versatile ski", as now the Elan 82Xti is no longer an option (the factory already sold out, and I am not going to take stock from the shop, since we can't re-order this late). They each have their +/-.  The Peak and Sultans will be more versatile, the 8.1 more of a bit wider super-carver that should be skied a bit shorter, as it is quite a bit stiffer than the others.  The 82Xti fits nicely in between those two types of skis, too bad I can't get it anymore. 
post #2 of 10
 I was told by HEAD, out of the skis that you listed above...only the Peak 78 (Monster 78) is unchanged. 
post #3 of 10
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post

Mojo 94: renamed, some of the metal has been removed
Get your Mojos now while they last.  I certainly felt that Mojo 94 that I demoed was not too stiff or unforgiving, so sounds like the replacement (John) has lost some of the top end.  
post #4 of 10
Dawg:

That's somewhat in contradiction to what I had been told.  I thought I was told last spring that the construction of the 78, 82, and 94 were all the same and only the names had been changed.

I've sent off an email to my rep to see if he can shed any light.  I'll post his reply when I get it.

I like your description of how to look at the "new" 88.  I skied it last winter and actually liked it a lot.  True, it's a little easier to turn than the old model but I wonder if that doesn't make it a more accessible ski to a larger number of skiers. 
post #5 of 10
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Well, I don't have the 2010 version of the Mojo 94 to look at it myself. The 82 certainly doesn't appear to be any different, and I am sure the 78 isn't either, after skiing it.  Same old (very, very good) ski.  The Head rep thought the 88 was certainly a bit softer and more forgiving, but still stiff enough to be a performance ski, much like the Sultan 85. The flex is about the same.  He simply said they wanted to broaden the range of applicable skiers for that ski, as the old 88 was a pretty aggressive ski.

I will take a pair of the 2010 88's and 78's up on Monday and do a review, if the conditions are OK.  Some new snow is supposed to fall, which should be ideal for testing skis.
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post



Get your Mojos now while they last.  I certainly felt that Mojo 94 that I demoed was not too stiff or unforgiving, so sounds like the replacement (John) has lost some of the top end.  
 
Especially if you get the base down to 1 degree. Some of them were coming out of the wrapper with 1.5 or 2 degree base bevel, which took the top-end away even more.  At 1 degree, it is a very good ski.
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

 I was told by HEAD, out of the skis that you listed above...only the Peak 78 (Monster 78) is unchanged. 

Well, that is from the regional rep, so either they made changes, or one of us is getting bad info!  Only one way to find out for sure; looks like I am testing skis next week!
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by dawgcatching View Post



Especially if you get the base down to 1 degree. Some of them were coming out of the wrapper with 1.5 or 2 degree base bevel, which took the top-end away even more.  At 1 degree, it is a very good ski.
 
That's what I keep hearing too, I was told that you need to re-tune the Mojo pretty much out of the wrapper to get its real performance.
post #9 of 10
I heard back from my rep.  Here's his response about the 88 and the 94:

88 no metal, softer and more forgiving, better in powder, not quite as good on hard snow but still great.


94 exact same, no change. There was never any metal in the 94 in the first place.


That's pretty consistent with what I got from the on-snow days last winter at Snowbasin.  Dawg - I'd love to hear your reactions if you can ski the "old" and the"new" 88's back to back.  I would love to do that myself.
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