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post #31 of 51
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It is currently raining, not sure how it has affected the snow yet. It has rained to the top, and may do so again in the next day or so. Not always a bad thing, it will help solidify the snowpack - making it easier to open Peak and Glacier chairs. When the temps drop again and we get snow, it will be great.

Blackcomb opens tomorrow, and 7th Heaven will be open
Harmony chair on Whistler is opening this weekend.

You don't need a car while you are here, it might be cheaper to take a bus - also rental cars rarely have winter tires or chains, which were necessary lately (not now). Still, if we get dumped on again, its good to have. Also, in times of heavy snow, the police often sit just north of Squamish checking car tires - no winter/chains and you get turned around.

Watch the weather and read my blog - http://whistlerblackcombsnowreport.com/
Edited by wbsr - 12/3/09 at 10:55am
post #32 of 51
GFot up on Saturday, and Harmony opend (and closed, and opened) during the day. Typical Whistler white-out at the top, but the Glades were fantastic - 24 inch of (a little heavy) fresh to cut through.

Sunday the 29th there was light rain, but it made for carving day.

Today it's raining pretty hard - staying put and doing some work waiting for tomorrow which is supposed to be clear and sunny.
post #33 of 51
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Plenty of sunshine at the moment
Upper elevations have great powder
about 1700m downwards is hard packed - some might call ice

November 2009 is the snowiest month on record for Whistler Blackcomb with a total of 560cm
post #34 of 51
Concurred -

Best I've found for past 2 days has been 7th Heaven. Some pow and crud, but nice and soft.

Stay away from areas that don't get direct sun - it's like least coast skiing - hard, chunky, death cookies, dust on crust etc.
post #35 of 51
7th heaven was ok (a lot of soft bumps), but I waited until the last 45 minutes it was open to let the sun work its magic on all that rain crust. Harmony was quite good, and you can ski the Sun Bowl going down into Symphony (just remember to take the Burnt Stew Trail exit since Symphony chair isn't operating). The Saddle was perfectly groomed, fast, and uncrowded. Great to just let 'er rip on the way down. The only really unpleasant part was skiing down to the top of Excalibur for downloading at the end of the day. I prefer ice in my drinks, not underfoot. I'm going to drop a few bucks and get my edges sharpened tomorrow before I have to relive the horror.

I've been burning off frequent flyer and hotel points to get my four days as close to zero cost as I can. Interestingly enough the daily parking and ski valet fees at my hotel add up to about what it is costing me on a daily basis for a Getaway (excess inventory at cheap rates) at my timeshare in Banff. Whistler is spectacular, the skiing is great, but it's not cheap.
post #36 of 51
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The snow has softened a bit after the rain/freeze event, and the snow is decent/good down to mid-mountain. I enjoyed cruising the groomers, especially on 7th Heaven.

Not much powder left, and none in the immediate future. Still, very good conditions overall, and a solid footing for the rest of the season.
post #37 of 51
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latest update: Cold northerly winds are making it cold (around -15 to -20), dry, and sunny. Great skiing if you don't mind the cold. the groomers are really good, and off-piste is decent.

While -20 is not considered cold for some places, it is for here. We rarely reach that mark, normally once or twice a season.
post #38 of 51
-20 F is cold enough to kill you - anywhere - dry or sunny! Reminds me of my first trip to Montana. Came home and told my friends it was the first time for me to see -20 on the clock at the bank. Every idiot I told the story too said the same thing, "Yes, but it's a dry cold"! Of course it's a dry cold - how much moisture do think the air can hold at -20 degrees F?
post #39 of 51
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Here in Canada we use Celsius - I think -20C is around 0F (give or take)
post #40 of 51
  i just hope that when i head up there dec 13 for 5 days of ski esprit that the weather forecast is wrong: supposed to be raining on monday/tues....but upon reading 3 different weather forecastings on the area, they're all different as to the type of precipitation: some say snow, others say rain....ay vay...what to do...??

i presume the instructors will still have good runs to go to on higher elevations to avoid the rain, if there are any ...or maybe not...??
Edited by canali - 12/8/09 at 8:33pm
post #41 of 51
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Originally Posted by wbsr View Post

$91 is the price for a single day lift ticket, bought at the bottom of the hill during the peak season.

You can purchase 5 day tickets for $68/day during the shoulder season - like right now where we are skiing DEEP pow.

BC locals had the chance to buy season passes for $1100, and I heard they sold a fair few. So unless the loonie gains a lot more vs the greenback, I don't think Baker will get that many more BC people than normal.

edit: doing some numbers

Baker ticket CAD$50 for 1000 acres = 5 cents per acre
WB ticket CAD$100 for 8000 acres = 1.25 cents per acre

So depending if you are good enough/fit enough to ski WB, you can get a lot more for your money.

 

Who cares?!??!!  SO YOU SKI THE NOVICE LIFTS AT WB?  And you are saying you ski the novice area at one resort, on the same day go to the other resort, and ski  the novice area? 

The important things are
amount of snow wb gets a gold star here
quality of snow  ????  (isnt most of whistler south facing??)
terrain that you like to ski (for most of us chutes and bowls %33 - %45
post #42 of 51
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Originally Posted by steveys View Post




Who cares?!??!!  SO YOU SKI THE NOVICE LIFTS AT WB?  And you are saying you ski the novice area at one resort, on the same day go to the other resort, and ski  the novice area? 

The important things are
amount of snow wb gets a gold star here
quality of snow  ????  (isnt most of whistler south facing??)
terrain that you like to ski (for most of us chutes and bowls %33 - %45

Another way to look at it is like this - Whistler has the same amount of Black terrain as a lot of other resorts have total terrain.

Going by the figures that WB release - we have just over 2200 acres of advanced terrain - compared that with the size of your local or favorite hill.

For some examples, by adding up Beginner, Intermediate and Advanced terrain:

Aspen - total of 675 acres
Jackson Hole - total of 2500 acres

I know Vail and Squaw are decent, but getting back to the original comparison in this thread -

Mt Baker, a total of 1000 acres. So you can pay $50 for 1000 acres of green/blue/black runs or $100 for 2200 acres of black runs plus 5500+ of green and blue

Also, it is pretty hard to have 2 mountains side by side and have them both face south all the time ?????
As a general rule, we have north -> west -> south facing slopes, not many east.

We do get wet and heavy snow at times - but I believe Mt Baker would get it even more than us.

So, in short, no I don't ski the novice lifts, and I still have plenty of challenging terrain to choose from.
post #43 of 51
Hey, wbsr...

Thanks for the reports.  We're jealous of all your snow so we hope you'll send a little bit our way.

I have some friends (a fairly large family) who are looking for sort of a last-minute idea for a Christmas ski vacation.  They're across the board in terms of skiing (and riding) abilities and they've never been to WB.  I'm inclined to tell them to head your way since you seem to be set up about as well as anybody in North America right now for snow.

Would I be going wrong by steering them to WB?

Thanks,
post #44 of 51
 Bob, might be the best year to go since there is an amazing early season base and skier visits are down by about 20% due to the Olympic aversion factor which scares off many people. There are some pretty good deals to be had up there pre-post Olympics this season.
post #45 of 51
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You never know what is going to happen, but this could end up being the year 'to be in Whistler'. I am personally very positive about the upcoming season, mainly for the reason that somegood mentions - Olympic aversion. We already have a good base, so any snowfall we get this year is going to be fun and if it stays untracked for longer than normal, I am not going to complain.

As for Christmas, Whistler can be very busy, I have no idea on how booked up the hotels are, but the snow should be good. It is also a good resort for groups of varying ability.
post #46 of 51
 I visited W-B the week between Christmas and New Years a few years ago and I have to say the place absorbs people like a sponge.  As long as you get up early and don't come down to the base (which isn't hard to accomplish) then you are looking at short to no lines at all.
post #47 of 51
 lots of good deals to be had at whistler (i guess at most resorts given it's still a recession out there)....for example, i just got good price on a reputable 1 bdrm condo x 3 nights for $335 all taxes included (as per their 'stay 2 nights & get the 3rd free' deal)...it  has a livingroom, fireplace, my owner washer/dryer for laundry, jettub bathtub...'tis in the upper blackcomb village lodge area (so i'll take a shuttle to get to ski hill: who cares...will be quieter too at night without the yahoos keeping me awake upon the bars closing)...if the snow is good and my legs hold up after 3 days, i just might stay another 3 days to repeat the offer.

also just got $50 bucks off of ski esprit program with my Edge card)..

in short i think with planning there are plenty of good deals at whistler right now.
Edited by canali - 12/10/09 at 9:57pm
post #48 of 51
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

Hey, wbsr...

Thanks for the reports.  We're jealous of all your snow so we hope you'll send a little bit our way.

I have some friends (a fairly large family) who are looking for sort of a last-minute idea for a Christmas ski vacation.  They're across the board in terms of skiing (and riding) abilities and they've never been to WB.  I'm inclined to tell them to head your way since you seem to be set up about as well as anybody in North America right now for snow.

Would I be going wrong by steering them to WB?

Thanks,

A mixed-ability group will have a blast.  Whistler truly does have something for everyone in terms of terrain.  And the village is great.

If they've never been to Whistler, one thing to keep in mind is that sometimes visibility can go to zero, particularly in the alpine.  I've gotten so disoriented at times that I've tried to ski down something in the uphill direction.   Also avoid skiing to the very bottom until the end of the day, to avoid getting stuck in big lines.  A guide to Whistler is available for sale at the local shops.  There is an intermediate and an advanced edition; both are valuable to someone new to WB.
post #49 of 51
 wow the weather reports are varied and change often when i go to this site (guess it depends on models being used to forecast) but looks like whistler might be getting alot of snow the next week (woo hoo).
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Whistler-Blackcomb/6day/top
post #50 of 51
I was up at WB for a long weekend fm Thrusday to Sunday Dec.13th. Thursday was cold with very firm and hard groomers on Whistler. Up high and in the Flute and Harmony areas, the snow was better. Saturday turned out to be the best day, and even though the resort was reporting no new snow, we manged to find at mid-mountian on Blackcomb several inches of fresh on top of the groomers. In fact over by the Crystal chair, which was not running, we had the deepest snow on Blackcomb. We lapped the area around the Crystal chair and had fresh tracks and fresh pow all morning long. And it was basically snowing from the time we got up the mtn at 8:30 AM until noon when we stopped for lunch. It was snowing lightly up high on Blackcomb on Sunday too.

post #51 of 51
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Nice photo.

We had some pockets of clouds, where it was snowing - I guess none of them flew over Pig Alley where they record the snowfall.

Today we got another recorded 11cm to the valley. I got some nice lines off the Peak chair, and had fresh turns while skiing to the base.

My car had a great layer of 'blower' snow on it in the morning :)
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