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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
How much planing is too much on a boot?

First off I'm bow-legged.....Custom footbeds are made and punches done on boots for fit. Got measured for alignment and one knee was out 3 degrees and one is out 4 degrees.

Is this too much adjustment to get be balanced to give future knee problems?
post #2 of 12
What has been done about cuff alignment?
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
Cuff alignment was done prior to the measurements for the knee in shell with new footbed in.
post #4 of 12
that is quite a lot (read loads)  was the cuff adjustment set to centre to the leg? was there enough adjustment or are you at max without a great result...  it may be that the cuff adjustment can be modified a bit to give more adjustment and reduce the amount of planning required
post #5 of 12
I would agree with other's that is a lot. In 15+ years of planing boots, I have only exceeded 3 degrees once. I use 3 degrees once a year. Cuff alignment can become the determining factor in selecting a boot if your tibial angle exceeds the average range ( in either direction) by a large enough amount.

It is important that with the mid-line of your foot at hip's width the boot sits flat and your leg should be centered in the cuff. If the boot does not have enough range of adjustment to allow this, extra canting is NOT the way to go, a different boot is a better choice.

Then again your boot fitter may be right and that is the correct amount. Kind of hard to say on the Internet (damn you Al Gore).

post #6 of 12
Thread Starter 
There was plenty of adjustment in the cuff so it was in the centre of leg at natural stance. Falcon CS boots. I had always felt like I was on the outside of the boot....
post #7 of 12
Originally Posted by rfl1 View Post

There was plenty of adjustment in the cuff so it was in the centre of leg at natural stance. Falcon CS boots. I had always felt like I was on the outside of the boot....

sounds a bit like a footbed issue to me, but without seeing the foot/boot impossible to say
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys will keep you posted on the outcome!!
post #9 of 12
as has been stated, very difficult to assess your assessment via the internet, however, the guys have hit the high points.

the challenge is to help you have a fighting chance at improving your skiing, without compromising your joint spacing and putting you at risk of injury.

as mentioned, the places to look are at the STJ (sub talar joint ) effected most directly in the ski boot by the angle of the bootboard side to side at the rear foot or forefoot, as well as the same angles in the footbed which rest on top of the bootboard. so if all is good there, you move on up the chain to the cuff of the boot, at the cuff, we want to see that the shell is not putting additional stress on the STJ, this is accomplished by centering the cuff to the leg as it comes off the bootboard/footbed. the next joint to get stacked over the feet is the knee, this relates most strongly to the sole angle of the boot. most boot guys that have been around the block a few times, get a little funny feeling when they see canting indications that cross over the 3 degree line. that is a lot of cant. in some cases, just moving the skier closer to the target in the correct direction, will give a huge improvement on snow. the hesitation that the bootfitters have expressed at going past 3 degrees on the sole is related to the closing and opening of joint space at the knee. there can be consequences for the action of changing too dramatically the relationship of the joint spacing at the knee.

there is no universal training for bootfitters, so make sure that you have confidence in the assessment of your fitter and the resulting changes that he proposes.

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well just spent 16 days on snow and the work that I had done on the boots was all worth it. Ski is flat, putting ski on edge is spot on and no knee issues. So anyone that has had thoughts about getting alignment checked, do it if you can. Have had lots of comments by the top level pros at the dramatic change in my skiing.
post #11 of 12
I would be interested in learning what boot/alignment work was done as well as who it was you worked with.

post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
The work that was done is the first thread, custom (Footworks) footbeds, cuff alignment, punches so foot and ankle was not contacting the shell and then alignment. Soles where planed and new plates put on and the toe and heel piece routered to proper din specs. Local Level IV (CSIA) course conductor here in Canada....well worth it.
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