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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Pretty new to the forum, been skiing for 20 years.

I am  thinking I need a new set of skis, or maybe just an addition to the one pair in the quiver now.  I am planning 3 big trips out west this year and would like to get the most out of them with some more versatile skis.

Here are the stats:
-Live in Minnesota (think ice)
-Raced in High School (More ice)
- 5-9" 210
- 27 years old
- plan to ski less than 5 times here in Minnesota and 3 trips out to Colorado/Montana.

Current Skis:
- Volkl Supersport all-stars 182

Current Boots:
- Nordica Supercharger blower

Terrain:
- I ski everything, bowls, bump, trees, carving down cruisers.

I am looking for some skis (hopefully volkls) that would complement my current Supersports.  The Supersports are great for flying down the hill ripping huge turns with your hair on fire but when I take them through crud or any powder, just not the right fit.  I feel like I am getting thrown around and working too hard.  I think I need something wider under-foot and less carving orientated.  Been thinking about either an used AC50 or Grizzly (more likely AC50 cause those Grizzlies = $$$)  I have also looked at the freeskier series and something like the Mantra, but I don't think I find enough powder usually to really take advantage of these?


What would you guys suggest?

Minnskier
Thanks
post #2 of 14
Welcome Minnskier; as a Volkl user and lover I hear you and might be able to help.  The Volkl Mantra (what I ski) is not nearly as fat a ski as you may think.  My two ski quiver is a pair of AC4 and the Mantra.  The Mantra is not as powder specific as the Goat (Gotama) so if you're looking for a one ski quiver for out west and those rare days you have soft snow in MN, it would be a great choice.  The AC50 is also a great ski and I like it much more then the Griz.  But the AC50 could be a little close to what you have.  Although it's a great all mountain ski I think you'll ultimately have more fun on the Mantra.  Of course this is only my opinion & I'm sure you'll read a lot more, some agreeing and some disagreeing.  GOOD LUCK
post #3 of 14
 It sounds like the Supersport works pretty good for east coast and you don't ski east coast that much. I think the old Gotama (last year or older) would be a good ski for out west. It's a very popular all mountain powder ski. I haven't personally skied the Gotama so you probably should do some research. But in the end the best choice is: DEMO!!!!

good luck
post #4 of 14
 Goats over Mantras, given that you have the All*s, no question. I have last year's design, they're different this year with the early rise and rocker so there's a decision to make there. I'm not sure they were broke, so I'm curious to try the new ones out and see how they "fixed" 'em. The edition I have (07) is an everywhere, everyday ski out west. I have lots of other skis, including Mantras, but if I were to choose just one for all mountain west, these are still it.
post #5 of 14
If you want the ski for out west only, then Goats over Mantra......... if you want to use them in MN and out west then Mantras over Goats..........my $.02. I've used the Mantras on ice and in waist deep pow.........either choice you will be very happy.........Enjoy! :-)

I'm talking about the old Goats not the new rockered version........not enough real data on the new ones yet.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Minnskier View Post

I am looking for some skis (hopefully volkls) that would complement my current Supersports.  The Supersports are great for flying down the hill ripping huge turns with your hair on fire but when I take them through crud or any powder, just not the right fit.  I feel like I am getting thrown around and working too hard.  I think I need something wider under-foot and less carving orientated.  Been thinking about either an used AC50 or Grizzly (more likely AC50 cause those Grizzlies = $$$)  I have also looked at the freeskier series and something like the Mantra, but I don't think I find enough powder usually to really take advantage of these?

You are spot on about the Supersport - a great ski for the firm stuff, but you'll get thrown around in the crud. The AC50  is much more stable in the crud and junk yet works almost as well on the firmw so if you're ijust interested in finding a more versitile replacement that may by the ticket.  The Tigersharks might be worth looking at as well.

But neither the TS nor the AC 50 are powder skis.  They'll be a noticable step up from the Supersports, but are probably not the best choice for a dedicated western ski.

The Mantras are an amazing compromise ski.  They  hold an edge and carve railroad tracks on anything softer than glare ice, yet they're wide enough to float you through deeper softer stuff.  They're often used as a western '"one ski quiver" and they're versitile enough that you can use these on most days in the midwest. Some people don't have enough "oomph" to handle a ski this beefy, but as a former racer you'll have on problem.

I haven't skied the Goats.  By all reports you won't be carving on fim stuff with them, but they're more adept in the deep than the Mantras.

If you were looking to replace your Supersports,  the AC 50 would be a good choice. SInce you're looking to find a complement to them, the AC50s are  too similar. I'd sat go with the Mantras if you can only take one pair out west, think about the goats if you can afford to travel with a quiver.  Not every day is a powder day.

(current quiver: Mantras, Tigershark 10' Supersport 5 Stars, P-50s)
post #7 of 14
Do like Yo Mamma told you...
post #8 of 14
Go with the Bridges.  Great versatile, fatter twintip.  They will give you plenty of float if it dumps out West and will be very good on harder snow on days that it hasn't snowed. 
post #9 of 14

Old Goats GREAT 1 ski quiv, I own Gold 08's...  If you like the AC50 you OWE it to yourself to demo the Blizzard 8.7 IMO a Better ski, But generally part of a larger quiver, not a 1 ski answer, especially in the West..  I would add both and you would be set, especially with your current Volks...

post #10 of 14
See, everyone has an opinion...  Best to demo if possible, otherwise roll the dice.  You can't make that bad a decision with the information above. 
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by bob4snow View Post

See, everyone has an opinion...  Best to demo if possible, otherwise roll the dice.  You can't make that bad a decision with the information above. 

Like what bob said, you can't make a bad decision with the information above, but you wont know you made the BEST decision unless you demo. But that might be hard because you would have to demo them in the west on a powder day.

good luck!
post #12 of 14

Mantra is a really versatile ski - probably the most versatile in volkl's quiver. They'll be great for your trips, but might not be as good when you're back home. Check out the AC50 as well. Cheers.

post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
If I want to demo a pair out west this year, do the local ski shops out there usually demo higher end skis or the hill???  I will be hitting up Copper Mountain in late december and then Bridger Bowl MT in late Feb.  The few times I have gone through the local ski shops that rent skis in Frisco and such, all they had was crap for higher end quality stuff.

Thanks

Minnskier
post #14 of 14
If you plan to demo the Goats or Mantras or similar, call the local shops and see who has them as soon as you know your dates and reserve the skis. Many times with these popular high end skis they end up out for the days you are there. So plan ahead. Be willing to give a credit card # when you call for the rental to guarantee the ski will be there.

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Originally Posted by Minnskier View Post

If I want to demo a pair out west this year, do the local ski shops out there usually demo higher end skis or the hill???  I will be hitting up Copper Mountain in late december and then Bridger Bowl MT in late Feb.  The few times I have gone through the local ski shops that rent skis in Frisco and such, all they had was crap for higher end quality stuff.

Thanks

Minnskier
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