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post #61 of 71
I had been sliding on snow about 8 times with rented skis, lace-up boots and cable bindings before I bought my own gear. New skis, step-in bindings and buckle boots. The first time out on the new gear was really the first time I actually skied. I was able to ski faster, with more control, right out of the box, not unlike more recent equipment transitions have allowed.

Helmet, what helmet, I didn't see any helmet. Must have been something on the radio.
post #62 of 71
On a non-powder day, right at opening, the mountain is freshly groomed and no one there. A great time to bring out some fast skis (yes, even retro-fast skis, Atomic Bionic RS for example) and just mach all over the mountain.

I knew the juniors were training SG one day and came out with my Atomics (from the late 80s?). I rode the chair with a couple of them, in speed suits, and God those new SG skis are beautiful.

They feigned interest in riding my boards, "hey man, I should do some runs with those". That was so incredibly nice.
 
Kids in a race program learn so much more than skiing fast, though they really learn skiing fast. When they go by, there is no edge noise as they are not sliding their edge; you just hear a kind of ripping the air sound. It's mega cool.
post #63 of 71
I don't think the grooming makes all that much difference.  I don't think the grooming has changed much either in the last 30 years.  A groomed run is a groomed run.  A cliff is a cliff.  Hasn't changed. 

Ski gear maybe.  In the past, if you wanted a ski that worked well at speed, you either suffered greatly or knew how to ski.  Very few folks were willing to push easy-turning skis past 35 mph and very few people were willing to put up with DH or SG skis for general use, moguls, powder and whatnot.  Now you can get a pair of skis that feel fine doing a mile a minute and are easy to ski making turns and generally just skiing around.
post #64 of 71
I was just guessing. I can't remember 30 minutes ago, much less 30 years ago.

Where's my lighter?







Oh, wrong thread.
post #65 of 71
there are dedicated bump skis made today (not much buzz about them here) and guess what? they are skinny and straight, and soft (like a 30 yr old ski)

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..........  The best bump skiers I see are usually the dudes on the old straight sticks, totally ripping it.

 
post #66 of 71

I am going to do exactly that in March in Whistler dont care what anyone says about my skis being rockered powder skis and 110 wide I love them and I will have a great time and  I will ski them everywhere I want to go on them and enjoy myself.

post #67 of 71
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Originally Posted by nicehead123 View Post

I am going to do exactly that in March in Whistler dont care what anyone says about my skis being rockered powder skis and 110 wide I love them and I will have a great time and  I will ski them everywhere I want to go on them and enjoy myself.





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I just shake my head grooming in the mornings watching people skin up and then snowplow back down. Some of them are just endurance junkies and like the pain of skinning uphill and just survive on their way to the bottom.

I just do not understand the idea of buying equipment because of how you look with it. They seem to forget that you will also be seen with it as you are attempting to use it. These are also the people that will have equipment based excuses as to why they are not skiing very good on a given day. We had a word for these people growing up it was poser.

I kind of like these people being out on the hill. It gives us entertainment for the chairlift ride.

Now if someone is tearing up groomers with a rockered powder ski more power to them.
 
post #68 of 71
Im going to Whistler in March and my skis are 110 wide rockered skis got em cause I like wide skis I like how they ski for me .I will ski them everywhere I want and I wont be giving a shit about what anyone thinks about my choice of ski because i will be to busy enjoying myself.I can ski anything i want to because and that is important ,not what people expect you to ski because of your ski choice. That will include groomers,Powder,Trees and anything else I might come across, and why because i can ski!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by CR0SS View Post

I just shake my head grooming in the mornings watching people skin up and then snowplow back down. Some of them are just endurance junkies and like the pain of skinning uphill and just survive on their way to the bottom.

I just do not understand the idea of buying equipment because of how you look with it. They seem to forget that you will also be seen with it as you are attempting to use it. These are also the people that will have equipment based excuses as to why they are not skiing very good on a given day. We had a word for these people growing up it was poser.

I kind of like these people being out on the hill. It gives us entertainment for the chairlift ride.

Now if someone is tearing up groomers with a rockered powder ski more power to them.
 
post #69 of 71
nowt to do with retro its what you want to do that counts.
post #70 of 71

Been pruning and tuning some gear over the weekend, mostly kids gear mounting the Jr bindings I got from StartHaus and just taking inventory to decide what to keep, pass on, or replace. 

 

Anyway,as for the retro grouch aspects I was looking at some poles at thrift stores because they were there and was bummed to see that even the stuff that old is far from what I prefer in my poles. 

 

Newer Pole Gripes:

 

What's with the tiny circumference grips?  These things are barely bigger than the tiny shaft of the pole now.

Why such skinny nylon straps?  I LOVE the way a 1" leather strap molds to the shape of my hand under the glove.

At this day and age I'd think all poles would come with breakaway straps, even the cheaper poles.  We had this feature in the early 80s.  Why would anyone NOT want it?

 

I'm trying.  I did use my Goode Carbons a lot last season knowing that the leather and plastic my Kerma poles are going to rot away sooner more than later.  The Goode does have a breakaway feature but it is pretty cheesy in comparison to the Kerma.  I realize that Leki has much closer to what I'd like but I'm not paying over $30 for a pair of ski poles period.  Doesn't anyone else have barrels the size if a human hand,  nice thick straps, and a decent breakaway design these days for under fifty bucks?

post #71 of 71
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 

Been pruning and tuning some gear over the weekend, mostly kids gear mounting the Jr bindings I got from StartHaus and just taking inventory to decide what to keep, pass on, or replace. 

 

Anyway,as for the retro grouch aspects I was looking at some poles at thrift stores because they were there and was bummed to see that even the stuff that old is far from what I prefer in my poles. 

 

Newer Pole Gripes:

 

What's with the tiny circumference grips?  These things are barely bigger than the tiny shaft of the pole now.

Why such skinny nylon straps?  I LOVE the way a 1" leather strap molds to the shape of my hand under the glove.

At this day and age I'd think all poles would come with breakaway straps, even the cheaper poles.  We had this feature in the early 80s.  Why would anyone NOT want it?

 

I'm trying.  I did use my Goode Carbons a lot last season knowing that the leather and plastic my Kerma poles are going to rot away sooner more than later.  The Goode does have a breakaway feature but it is pretty cheesy in comparison to the Kerma.  I realize that Leki has much closer to what I'd like but I'm not paying over $30 for a pair of ski poles period.  Doesn't anyone else have barrels the size if a human hand,  nice thick straps, and a decent breakaway design these days for under fifty bucks?

Just when my PTSD from reading all the "other people shouldn't ski fat skis, and other people can't ski" threads was starting to come under control, you had to dredge up this one.:) But to answer your question--maybe the reason you only found lousy poles is because you were looking in a thrift shop.

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