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post #1 of 17
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Guys, I am trying to learn to do my edges, and get a more aggressive on the angle... The swix tool i am using is certainly not doing the job 100%...

Can someone recommend me with some awesome tools that you know work best?  For both side and base... which files/stones do you use to polish?

Thanks!
post #2 of 17
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post #3 of 17
svst makes great tools
svst.com

think snow
post #4 of 17
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post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by clustermagnet View Post

Guys, I am trying to learn to do my edges, and get a more aggressive on the angle... The swix tool i am using is certainly not doing the job 100%...

Can someone recommend me with some awesome tools that you know work best?  For both side and base... which files/stones do you use to polish?

Thanks!


Which tool do you have? And are you using it properly? What's your preferred side angle/ski?

Until you are solid on your edge tuning you should stay away from working on the base edges, expect for some minor burr removal. You should be able to do the majority of maintenance sharpening/polishing with 200 and 400 grit diamonds and a gummi for edge touch up.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
THANKS FOR THE TIP!

I am an aggressive skier... and do take on any slopes/hikes/back country...  however, never had the need to do my own edges... until recently...(friend at the mountain quit his job, and i want to learn this myself).

since i ski 60+ days/season, i will be doing this almost all the time :)

I prefer to stick with the factory tips for volkl, 2 degree bevel on the side edge and a 1 degree bevel on the base edge

i ski the volkl bridges and the gotamas.

Never really questioned what people were throwing onto the skis... since i lived in colorado

now i moved to east coast.. where i have to give a shit about grip....

what would you recommend?
post #7 of 17
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post #8 of 17
check out alpinords site, he sell excellent products at very good prices and there is a lot of info available about tuning on his site, I bought a svst 3 degree edge bevel ( along with other things) and really like the quality of the svst
post #9 of 17

In a 3° for a grippier edge than a 2°.
post #10 of 17
I still like this list of tools from noodler.

http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/35522/noodler#post_414784
post #11 of 17
I would call that a Level 8 tuning list.

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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post

I've been trying to avoid this, but you've suckered me into it

Here is the list of tools that I use regularly. Some may disagree with my selections, but I'm interested in hearing some feedback anyhow.

I've listed the tools basically in the order I use them.

Noodlers tuning tools:

Holmenkol Tuning Bench and World Cup vise (the most important tools in my opinion)
True Bar (I prefer the "knife edge" models)
Tognar P-tex iron and ribbon P-tex
10" laser cut chrome files (flat filing the base only)
SkiVisions Base Flattener with steel bar (the key to this tool is maintaining the "trueness" and removing burrs)
Steel brush (used to clean skis between steps and freshen structure)
8" laser cut chrome file (used for setting base bevel only)
Toko World Cup Base Bevel Guide (A-man's recommendation - awesome)
Skiman Sidewall Skyver (planer) with round blade (only for initial prep)
SVST 4" pansar file (side edge bevel set only)
SVST Pro Edge Beveler guide 93 degrees (I have the 92 also, but rarely use it)
Spring clamp
Moonflex diamond stones/files (I have the whole progression from 100 to 1500)
SVST Secret Sauce (diamond file lubrication)
SVST Final Cut Base Edge Bevel Guide 1.0 (guide for polishing base edges)
Grey Gummi stone (only used to dull the edges that have no contact with snow)
Stone kit (multiple grades - used for finishing edges with misc. needs)
Tognar citrus base cleaner (only used if the base is really dirty)
SkiVisions Base Flattener with structure stones (coarse, medium, fine)
Brass Riller bar
Toko waxing iron
Dominator Zoom waxes
Reliable Racing plastic scrapers
Toko plastic scraper prep tool (renew the scraper edges)
Fine steel brushes and/or brass brushes (I don't use nylon anymore)
Horse hair brush (rarely used unless searching for serious speed)
DMT diamond files (only used to maintain the steel bar and structure stones)

P.S. Almost forgot - shop apron and band-aids!

The only "controversial" component of my kit is probably the SkiVisions Base Flattener. Once I learned how to maintain the steel bar and structure stones using diamond files (I do this between every 2-3 passes of the tool) I've achieved excellent results (much better than Ray's way using sandpaper and a sanding tube - that leaves tons of P-tex hairs). The SkiVisions tool leaves almost perfectly smooth and flat bases - you just need to be careful to overlap your passes with even pressure (so that you don't introduce "waves" along the ski base). I wish I could afford to get a base grind more often, but the SkiVisions tool is an excellent substitute in my opinion (A-man would definitely disagree).
post #12 of 17
Sounds like you are after some good quality tools.  Have a look at the ski tuning tools on offer at http://cleancarve.com/online-store/ 
Generally speaking the multi tool (adjustable angle etc.) tools just dont work that well.  I have been using sidecut racing tools for years They are simple and just work.  I especially like the diamond guide and seem to use it for just about everything.  Replace your file each year and the guides last for ever.
post #13 of 17
I would love to hear what folks here think about this kit.  I have read in other places on epic that the vise is good and that the base bevel is suspect. Would most of you agree?  What do you think about the Side of the Beast?  The reason I am asking is that this kit has most of what I don't have.  I need the vise, and edge tools, I have all the wax, iron, ptex repair etc. already.

http://www.ski-racing.com/packages.html

I am looking at the "pro" or middle package with the vise included. 

Would people buy a ski vise and go with the clean carve package above instead.  Thanks for the input
post #14 of 17
The vices look good and at a fair price also.  I think the clean carve kits are better value though.  I am a bit biased though as I already own the world cup tuning kit.  The tirgger clamp system for holding your file is great and the apron to store it all in works a treat.  It looks like clean carve also promote some vises via amazon (probably on a affiliate setup).  It might be worth checking them out to compare prices.

Just make sure you get a vice that holds you ski (or board) well.  Nothing worse than them slipping out. ouch.
post #15 of 17
Cold River side edge guide
In addition to the high quality SVST file guides there's a new player, Cold River MFG (www.coldrivermfg.com) worth looking into. Cold River produces  what I would call a "next generation"  side file guides as well as  other quality gear.    
post #16 of 17
wicked side edge In addition to the high-end SVST side edge file guides, there's a new player, Cold River MFG  (www.coldrivermfg.com ) that's producing what I would call "next Generation" side file guides.
post #17 of 17
"Blake" posted this, but our malfunctioned spam filter didn't release it.

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Cold River side edge guide
In addition to the high quality SVST file guides there's a new player, Cold River MFG (www.coldrivermfg.com) worth looking into. Cold River produces  what I would call a "next generation"  side file guides as well as  other quality gear.    
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