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Skis you are excited about skiing: new stuff for 2010!

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So, sitting at my computer, waiting for it to snow more (we have over a foot on the hill, keep it coming!) I was thinking about some skis I am excited to get time on this year.  Mostly new stuff that I have either tried a bit in the spring, or skis I have simply heard good things about that perhaps I didn't ski last year, due to not getting to ski much.  What is your list?

In no particular order:

Salomon Shogun: perhaps a Salomon that I will get along with finally.  I hear good things, a bit more smooth and stout.  Most Sollie's tend to be a little soft and "foam-corey" for my taste (Fury being the exception).  This supposedly has a bit more traditional feel.  Maybe a little narrow underfoot for true backside/deep snow days.  Looks to have a big early rise tip and no camber up there (probably the so-called marketing rocker) which likely means it will ski pretty traditionally, like the other early rise/little or no camber skis on this list. 

Rossi S7: never skied this ski, have heard very good things from most people.  I am excited to see how the hybrid design compares to a wide, soft ski with a big tip and a bit of regular camber (Answer, HT, 1010, Big Dump) and also how it compares to the really big rockered stuff.  Specifically, how each responds to certain types of releases, inputs, and skill suitability.      

Blizzard Answer IQ: even though I was skiing at about 20% of normal, I had a blast on this ski last year. Super easy to release on manky snow, still good edgehold and powerful, it was a very good ski.  I want more time on them this year.  Similar to the Shogun and Huge Trouble/Sixth Sense Huge: little to no camber and a big early rise tip (according to the rep, go ahead and "call it a rocker if you need a sales pitch.  Or just put them on the damn thing and have them go ski")

Elan 1010: had 2 of the best days of my life on this ski, even though, by then, I was still at no more than 50% of full speed.  This ski made me feel like a hero in all sorts of dodgy snow conditions, and with no speed limit attached. I was hooked.  Probably my main go-to ski this year when new snow is around, which means hopefully, most days. Short running length, due to huge early rise tip and tall tail, so size up if you are on the line.  185cm was the money length for me, and the length I purchased.

Dynastar Legend Sultan 85
: This looks to be a big winner.  Thin profile, very laterally stiff without longitudionally having a 2x4 feel.  It is actually quite soft when flexing it throughout the length of the ski, but as stiff as any ski at the shop in the tip, when flexed side to side.  Early rise tip and tail, running length is around 3cm shorter than one would expect for a given size.  Based on my short time on it last spring, I expect it to be more versatile and a bit more soft-snow oriented than many of the "wide-carver" crowd.  Could be my main go-to ski, especially if we are not having a big snow year, but getting a bit of snow here and there, and I want a bomber GS feel in my ski that can rip everywhere. 

Volkl Gotama: again, looks to be along the lines of the Shogun/1010/Answer.  Pretty traditional construction, early rise/tiny rocker tip, some sidecut.  Most people are saying good things, so looking forward to giving it a try.  As we don't sell Volkl, I didn't get the sales pitch from the rep on this one.

Elan 82Xti: this ski, coming back new for 2010, looks to be a real powerhouse, but more accessable for us lighter weight skiers. The 2 layers of metal, and the profile, has really been thinned out: the new ski is lighter than the old 82ti, with only 1 sheet of metal.  In my little bit of time with it in the spring, it felt like it was out-powering my old favorite mid-fat, the Blizzard 8.7, and had even more juice than the new 8.1 too.  Still a little stiffer, and more of a GS board at 176 than the shorter, more nimble 8.1 (172cm), but should compare very well with the 8.7, and I wouldn't be surprised if it offers more performance than the 8.7 as well, albeit with a bit "stronger" ride.

Elan Speedwave 14: new ski for 2010, but being that it was also softened up (thinner sheets of metal), I expect this ski to really come alive under my light weight.  Planning on purchasing a pair: hopefully if I do, we will have a huge snow year and they won't get used much. If I do end up skiing them, I am hoping for a stable, powerful ripping carver ride. The old SW14 was a touch too stiff for me, and the SW12 a bit too soft. Hopefully this one is just right.

Blizzard Magnum 8.1 Max IQ: I had a blast on this ski last spring.  Snappy, nimble, wicked edgehold, felt close to a cheater GS with not much of a speed limit, yet was versatile. Definitely easier going than the 82Xti, didn't quite have the GS power and ultimate stability of that ski, but also was more manageable. Could have been the shorter length though, not the actual ski.  This could easily be my "narrow" ski of the quiver, super fun for most days without a lot of new snow, but if I am going with 3 skis, I may go narrower than this on one end, and wider for my middle ski.   

Elan Boomerang: don't know much about this ski, except that it is HUGE!  Rep said it is a good ski to have in the quiver, if the snow is deep and you need a big, stable board.  Again, should be fun.

There are plenty of other fun skis lurking out there, but these seem to be on my hit list of some of the top new intros for 2010.  Planning on picking my quiver of 3 from this list! 

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 I really want to try the Black Diamond Verdict this year, probably because I haven't heard very much except that its lively and stiff.
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Völkl P50 F1, if I can find a deal on bindings.
My SGs - always exciting to ski.
My Volant Machete G  I had been neglecting them because they don't have the ice grip, but I discovered on the last day last season that it is so much fun to ski, I will put up with skidding over the icy patches.
My SCs - not so much - been there done that a lot, + I can't seem to resist taking them up to SG speeds and that isn't healthy on a sl ski.

Oh you meant new and exciting skis! 
I'll demo whatever I happen to come across on a demo day.  I'm not really excited about anything new, though I am curious about the Kästles.
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Kastle FX84: The Cayman to the MX series 911, lighter more toss able w/o loosing the power of being a Kastle. The first ski to get a perfect score in 10 years of Keelty's testing. 

Blizzard 8.1 & 8.7: I went through 3 pair of 8.7's last year, I kept loaning mine to customers and friends and they would't give them back. The IQMax this year year makes the ski even better. These skis ski like wide GS skis.

Nordica HR Pro: Not much talk anywhere about this powerhouse. A flat version of the XBS Hot Rod, super ski and skis like I always expected a Nordica to ski. 

Line Afterbang: Cool skateboard inspired construction with the core going completely to the edges with no sidewalls. Love the "Rat Fink" inspired graphics. Probably the most environmentally friendly ski on the market. 

Volkl Womans Line: Bio-motion. Is it real? is it marketing? Makes sense, but does it really make a difference?
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Kastle FX84:

Blizzard 8.1 & 8.7:

Nordica HR Pro: Not much talk anywhere about this powerhouse. A flat version of the XBS Hot Rod, super ski and skis like I always expected a Nordica to ski. 

 

Never been on a Blizzard, hear great things.  Time to give it a try.

I'd just buy the Kastle out right, no demo.  Sounds like a fantastic ski.

Need to replace my Top Fuels and am drawn back to Nordica.  It has been such a fine ski and has really matched my skiing.  Which one?  Don't know anything abut the Mach 4.  Mach 3 has had great reviews.  Helldiver would be inappropriate I think.

Phill, a review of the HR pro would be appreciated if you get the opportunity.
post #6 of 34
 I have two new pairs on the way - Kastle RX and Rossi S7. Looking forward to skiing both.
post #7 of 34
I'm dying to ski the S7s I picked up this fall.

I'm  very intrigued by both the Kastle FX84 & the Sultan 85.

Hard for me to find a niche for the Sultan since I have Mythic Riders. The Kastle sounds amazing and, possibly becuase I have a Cayman, Philpug's review has me frothing at the mouth.
post #8 of 34
I'm not chomping at the bits for any skis but I'm curious about a couple.

Kastle FX84 - Mainly because I skied Kastles from the late 70s through the 90s & was really upset when Nordica renamed the brand.  I'm curious to see how the new Kastle is doing.

Volkl Gotamas - Interested in seeing how their rockered version skis.
post #9 of 34
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Never been on a Blizzard, hear great things.  Time to give it a try.

I'd just buy the Kastle out right, no demo.  Sounds like a fantastic ski.

Need to replace my Top Fuels and am drawn back to Nordica.  It has been such a fine ski and has really matched my skiing.  Which one?  Don't know anything abut the Mach 4.  Mach 3 has had great reviews.  Helldiver would be inappropriate I think.

Phill, a review of the HR pro would be appreciated if you get the opportunity.
 

Buzz,

While I never liked the XBS Hot Rods, believe me I tried, I demoed most every variation, they all just felt dead to me. At the Stratton show last year when we tested skis for what to carry, I got on the HR Pro and it really felt like what I expected a Nordica to ski like, very Austrian, smooth, powerful and responsive it felt the most like my old Titan Nines, may they rest in peace. We replaced the defunct Monster line in our shop, The HR Pro is a better Monster 82.

My east coast ski this year has yet to be chosen, it is between this HR Pro, FX84 and the 8.7, not a bad ski out of the 3 but still haven't decided. 
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I'm obviously not up to speed with the dimensions skis have taken the past couple of years. I'm thinking about getting a cheap Dynamic  slalom ski with a 68 in. waist for skiing in Pa. WNY. I'd take my K2 PE 's to Colorado.

But what I'm apparently missing is the fact that skis with mid 80'ish waists are really good hard snow skis too. Apparently they are with the rave reviews they always seem to get. The guy I ski with bought the Kastle out in Vail last year with the 80 something waist after demoing it one day. He liked it enough to buy it , but I don't hear him gushing constant superlatives about it either. 

He and I used to wear the same boot size and I went up a size a couple of seasons ago which doesn't allow me to switch skis with him for a few runs. I'd really like to ski the Kastle and the next ski he will undoubtedly buy this season!

If I get to Utah this season and there is big time pow, as thrifty (cheap) as I am, I'm definitely going to rent a pair of rockers for the day. I'm super intrigued be this design and last year skied with a guy who had a pair and he went everywhere effortlessly in thigh deep - waist deep snow and I just stunk the place out and struggles through it. Maybe the rockers will validate that I'm just a super crappy powder skier and I won't do much better, but I'd like to have the experience.
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Older Volkl Gotama: You could say it's the most popular all-mountain twin tip powder ski. I haven't skied it and would really want to and see what all the talk is about.

09-10 Volkl Gotama: Really interested to see what Volkl did with the rocker and the new shape. Also heard a lot of people who skied it last year liked it. It seems like a more powder ski than previous years.

Line Prophet 100: Super old design, so they must of got something right. I have heard it's quick ski and I would love that in an all mountain powder ski.

Salomon Shogun:
I've heard this ski is poppy and like because of the bamboo. I would like to try the bamboo. Also I've heard it has rock in it (can't remember what rock) and that makes it a stiffer ski.

Rossignol S7: I think the design could work with the 5 dimensions so it has the quickness of a shorter ski and floats like a longer ski.

Line Sir Francis Bacon: I like the graphics and its a really soft ski so it's suppost to perform well it powder. Probably last on my list but if I had a chance I'd give it a go.
post #12 of 34
Thread Starter 
Kastle is great.  There were not demo opportunities locally last season, and at the price they were selling for, we sure couldn't justify stocking them.  Hopefully they can get a rep in this territory.  Tough time to roll out a premium ski line, especially locally with our 16% unemployment.

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post #13 of 34
I skiied almost everything last year so there won't be any surprises. My own stuff is pretty well set except for the 85mm slot (probably a Sultan although the HR Burner is really good too)

However there are some skis that I liked well enough to want to spend more time on this year. Some (Atlas, P-100) are going into my personal quiver but two that aren't are the Shogun and the Blizzi Answer. Those are two skis that I really like a lot and I want to do a more thorough wring out on them.

As an aside on the Kastles...they were really good maybe even great. However, justifying a 30% higher price tag is tough. We won't be carrying them either.

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post #14 of 34
Let's see...

Line Chronics that I've had sitting in my garage since May.

Moment Night Trains, Moment Bibby 186, maybe Surface one life.... I want a light, powder oriented rocker ski to compliment my everyday driver --  Prophet 100.  Super intrigued by the Night Train, though....
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Let's see...

Line Chronics that I've had sitting in my garage since May.

Moment Night Trains, Moment Bibby 186, maybe Surface one life.... I want a light, powder oriented rocker ski to compliment my everyday driver --  Prophet 100.  Super intrigued by the Night Train, though....

I really liked the Cronic Kryptonite. 
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I have been waiting to ride my 08/09 4frnt EHPs for the first time, and with the warm temps at squaw it may be a real long wait.
I am looking to add every day mid fat to my quiver and these are the skis I am thinking about.


333 skis from Michael Lish (134 104 124)
salomon shogun
Line prophet 90 or 100
K2 sidestash or hardside
Liberty helix or double helix

Volkl katana, mantra and bridge

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My brand new Armada JJs.
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 Sultan 85 is the first new ski I liked so much that I put in a pre-season order.  After a brief demo last spring, I was sold, and plunked down a deposit.  It will be interesting to see what other people think of them, but I really think they will be one of the best new skis for this season.
post #19 of 34
My brand new P100's - Should be here on Thursday.

Sultan 85

BD Verdict - now with a wood core right?

Blizzard 8.1
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I would like to try a Kastle this year, if I can find a place that demos them.
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Here is a list of Kastle demos that will happen in the East.

11/28-29 Sunday River ME
12/18 Gore NY
12/11 Ski Magazine Consumer Demo Fest @ Okemo
12/12-13 Sugarloaf ME
12/15-17 PSIA-E Sno Jam @ Killington
12/19 Holiday Valley NY
12/20 Jiminy Peak MA

Look for more dates to be added soon
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 Sultan 85 is the first new ski I liked so much that I put in a pre-season order.  After a brief demo last spring, I was sold, and plunked down a deposit.  It will be interesting to see what other people think of them, but I really think they will be one of the best new skis for this season.

 
Really want to try:
Sultan 85 v. Rossi Phantom 87
Blizzard Atlas and 8.7s

Very Interested
Rossi Phantom 97
Any Kastle-could they be worth the dough
Prophet 90s


On the way or in hand for a test
ON3P BillyGoat
Liberty Hazmat
post #23 of 34
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My brand new P100's - Should be here on Thursday.

Sultan 85

BD Verdict - now with a wood core right?

Blizzard 8.1
 

Prophet 100's?...  You'll love them.  Btw, I responded to your PM (about Heavenly), the other day.  Sorry it was so late
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I really liked the Cronic Kryptonite. 


Are those the new wider version?  92mm waist?
post #25 of 34
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Really want to try:
Sultan 85 v. Rossi Phantom 87
Blizzard Atlas and 8.7s

Very Interested
Rossi Phantom 97
Any Kastle-could they be worth the dough
Prophet 90s


On the way or in hand for a test
ON3P BillyGoat
Liberty Hazmat
 

Let me know how you like the Billygoat's.  I'm interested in the Billygoats and the Caylor's.  tia
post #26 of 34
Thanks for the response Hokiesnow. I will let you know how it works out.
post #27 of 34
 My Kastle RXs got here today. I'm pretty excited to try them.
post #28 of 34
I'm totally stoked to have a new pair of 2008 Legend Pros to ride. (black and orange model, 97mm) with Dynastar Race 14's , 176's. I skied them just once last year. Smoooooth and fast. 26M radius. Straight-line boards. Big days. These will change my skiing, so bring it, snooooow!

I know that's not really what you're after, but I'm old school, ya' know.

And Dawg, I'll look for that comparison of the S-7 and the Huge Trouble, as they top my list for next acquisition.
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 My Kastle RXs got here today. I'm pretty excited to try them.

What binding are you putting on them? 
post #30 of 34
 They have the KTi14 which I will try. I have it in my mind tat I want to put my Marker Piston plate with M16s on them though.
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