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post #31 of 45
How 'bout some more pictures?
post #32 of 45

Next time have the picture taken on the second turn. It looks like you have just started from the top and it's as if you were trying to force that turn.

Drop something like a cap/hat on the snow and have her focus on that object ...... then that's where you make your turn and the focus thing won't be an issue.

It also looks like the "snow" conditions were less than ideal ..... granular piles?

Oh! Try to get a turn point where the overhead lights won't reflect off your thinning top cover ... maybe better wear the hat ... Well you said to be critical, you said you could take it! :
post #33 of 45
WTFH, from time to time I come across real “gems” of information that really change the way I approach things. One was a very famous (and to some, controversial) instructor/author who is a strong proponent of improving one’s balance as a means of improving skiing. Picking up on his theme I started doing balance training and much more in-line skating. Sorry this has nothing to do with your photo, but I found the skating has done wonders for my skiing. Unless you enjoy spending time on your ass, the in-line skates do wonders for fore/aft balance in addition to helping with fitness.

Anyway, it's how I occupy my time between seasons. Now after 2 or 3 months of not skiing it's time to put it to the test; off to New Zealand tomorrow [img]smile.gif[/img]

Good luck with the progress.


post #34 of 45
WTFH - I can recommend the rollerblading too.

I have NO natural balance - can't stand on 1 leg & count to 5.(with about 1 inch between the 'up' foot & the ground)

Was told to take up skating if I wanted to improve my skiing - Helped the balance a LOT!

This summer skated more than ever before, as I have finally got to the stage where I can skate without an instructor - BOTH of my instructors commented on the improvement in my lower leg work when our season restarted - also my legs are tiring less quickly this season.
post #35 of 45
WTFH, your picture is only a snap-shot of your skiing ability, but I would have to say that you seem hesitant to commit to the new turn. The old outside leg (left leg) should already be lighter and tipped towards the new turn. That will automatically bring the rest of your CM into the new turn. I am not sure why nolo thinks you should stand taller. I know many instructors advocate a taller stance (longer legs), but I personally don't agree with that. Perhaps nolo wants you to relax (in the picture you look like you are fighting the turn), but standing taller and relaxing is not really the same thing (IMHO). Of course, nolo is the expert here so her advice is far more valuable than mine.

I don't want to start any PSIA vs PMTS discussions, but I believe that PMTS specific technique would go a long way to get you to better commit to the new turn and get out of the A-frame and slight stem. HH's web site provides a wealth of information on this subject. While I am not a PMTS type of skier, I do believe that PMTS provides a viable alternative to traditional teaching and can help an intermediate move to the next level.

For dry-land training, in-line skating is indeed the best cross-training tool out there. I use in-line skates to go into slalom drills every time the road allows it. Nothing will teach you upper-lower body separation like correct slalom moves on in-line skates. On mild slopes use only slalom turns to control speed, but don't use your upper body to turn and keep your skates truly parallel (most people don't do that).

I hope that helps a little, but please remember I AM NOT A PRO! [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #36 of 45
Since we are only looking at one picture, maybe it would help if somebody posted a picture of what he should look like at that moment. Anyone?
post #37 of 45
well, the guy in the middle seems pretty "lined up"...

yes, to echo Pete and disski, get on the skates/blades; they cut real quick to fore/aft balance issues.

[ July 08, 2002, 10:35 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #38 of 45
Did you find any that show the point of the turn that fox is in, with the skis at the same angle to the fall line as his?
post #39 of 45
Oh. Like this?

I'll keep looking for THE pic.
post #40 of 45

I do want to see Fox relax. If you clench your hand into a fist and then relax the hand what happens to the fingers? They stretch out, right? That isn't to say they are completely extended, but once the muscles relax, the bones seek their "angle of repose." The angle of repose for the legs is unfolded.

Fox's joints are flexed: he is hanging onto the turn well past its prime. He needs to "let go and let gravity" start the turn and then use pressure, edging, and guidance to shape the turn.

Fox reports that he becomes fatigued more quickly than his ski buddies. His posture is working his quads pretty hard, and without a relaxation phase, his muscles are not getting enough opportunity to reoxygenate. A more erect posture will take a lot of that stress off the thighs and the lumbar spine and enable his muscles, joints, and bones to work together more efficiently.

I think Frankie has supplied Fox with a skiing mantra that would do him as much good as all the words in the Encyclopedia. I'll bet he has a hard time not having that ditty playing in his brain the next time he goes to the Zone. I hope so, anyway!
post #41 of 45
Nolo, do you know what that song is about?
: : :

[ July 08, 2002, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: milesb ]
post #42 of 45
Thread Starter 
Thanks, everyone, for all the help so far!

So, Nolo, if my quads are being over-worked, that would explain why my thighs need a good rub down at the end of the day.


post #43 of 45
Thread Starter 
I believe they are about premature edge release...

Oh oh

Relax don't do it
When you want to go to it
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
When you want to come

Relax don't do it
When you want to to go to it
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
Relax don't do it
When you want to suck to it
Relax don't do it
When you want to come
Come-oh oh oh

But shoot it in the right direction
Make making it your intention-ooh yeah
Live those dreams
Scheme those schemes
Got to hit me
Hit me
Hit me with those laser beams

I'm coming
I'm coming-yeah

Relax don't do it
When you want to go to it
Relax don't do it
When you want to come

Relax don't do it
When you want to suck to it
Relax don't do it (love)
When you want to come
When you want to come
When you want to come

Get it up
The scene of love
Oh feel it

Higher higher

post #44 of 45
Curses. Foiled again!

I should have checked the lyrics but the tune is right. Just use my rewrite and don't tell the fan club.

My booboo notwithstanding, where would we be without music to communicate with? They say a picture is worth a thousand words. How about a good song for getting you in the mood?

Besides, I know that Fox is musical and would probably respond to the main word in that song.

I like to ski to specific songs. Dog's Eye View, "Everything Falls Apart" is an ode to skiing. Counting Crows' "The Rain King" has nothing to do with skiing but it's triumphant and emphatic--lots of I-I-I-I. Tom Petty's "Learning to Fly" had to have been written by a person who likes snow. It's important that the song convey the spirit of the task at hand: Everything falls apart, then I get to put it back together--I want to be someone who believes...

I'm learning to fly, but I ain't got wings. Coming down is the hardest thing.
Some say life will beat you down,
Break your heart,
Steal your crown.
Started out, from God knows where.
Guess I'll know when I get there.

[ July 08, 2002, 03:12 PM: Message edited by: nolo ]
post #45 of 45
I'm jumpin' over many replies to enter this so
I may be repeating stuff already mentioned...
Have that upper body *lead the way down the mountain* (so to speak)..take that mental image
and you'll keep it balanced and leaning down the
fall-line, not leaning slightly uphill! Particularly in forming your FIRST turn down that
steep trail....use that Barnes-ism "Offensive Intent" frame of mind to stay balanced from the
very first second. You have to *Take the Plunge*
with the upper body....to say balanced and to stay in contact with the outer edges of your skis,
otherwise one starts skidding when your don't intend to.
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