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East Coast Powder Ski???? Looking at Gotamas and the K2 Obsethed

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I live and ski in the east and im looking into buying a pair of powder skis. Im 5ft 10in 150lbs and a very good advanced skier. Im looking for a ski that is going to be versatile ski that is great in deep pow but can also ski on groomers if i need them to. I would primarily be using them for powder and use in backcountry and in the trees (so i would like somthing that is somewhat maneuverable). Anyway I was hoping maybe some of you could sugest some skis that might be worth taking a look at. I myself am currently looking at either the Volkl Gotamas or the K2 Obsethed...if i get either of those i would probably get the Gotamas in the 186 and the Obsethed in the 189 because i have heard they ski shorter because of the rocker. I would also probably mount marker Baron AT bindings on them...anyway if anyone has any other suggestions please let me know.Thanks! I appreciate it! =)
post #2 of 21
For AT use, which I am assuming you are looking towards with the use of the Baron, one may look as skis such as the Coomba/Coomback form K2 over the Obsethed,  or go a tich bigger and look at the Sidestash.
A bit bigger than a Gotama which would also be a good choice.
But I also mounted a Baron to a Monster 88 and in all but the deepest pow it was a hoot and touring it was actually a bit easier with a smaller more manageable ski
post #3 of 21
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Yeah the Sidestash is a great ski...might have to consider that one as well. I also just thought of the Solomon Shogun not sure if that would be somthing worth looking into. Anyway thanks alot for the suggestion. Also the guy at the ski shop recommended the Barons over the Dukes to me. He said because i would only be doing light touring and because i am on the lighter side the barons would be better
post #4 of 21
 When I decided to stock some "rockers" for the east, I chose the ObSethed and Gotama as my two choices because they could still be skied on firm snow and carve an edge. The ObSethed,even in the 179 skis big, I am 5/10" 190 and I wouldn't want to take the 189 in the trees in the east and really found no place in Steamboat or JH last year where I wished I had more ski. I sked the Sidestash at the trade show last year and it didn't blow me away, I found the Obsethed and even the Fujas to be more fun of skis. 
post #5 of 21
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Thanks for the advice! Yeah im probably going to go with the K2s or the Gotamas...idk i will prob end up with the Gotamas though...they seem like the perfect ski for me.
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I'm 5"10 220, in search of a fresh day ski thats going to be forgiving in tight places aka. tree's that are pretty close. I wanted to stay short with them for that same reason 170-178...but i feel like everyone is telling me to go 184 - 186... anyhow any advice would be golden .
post #7 of 21
 Check out the Katana too. I think it's the better ski vs. the Gotama. I skied them back to back in very heavy new snow and the Katana really made it easy.
post #8 of 21
I would be cautious about choosing a rockered ski for touring, especially on the EC. climbing on hardpack / 2-D snow is hard on a rockered ski. $.02.
post #9 of 21
 I wouldnt get either for east coast touring at least no the newer version of either. The older version of either would be fine IMO. 

also wider than 100mm as your only touring ski isnt not a good idea either. 120mm and hardpack switchbacks dont work out so well for me.
post #10 of 21
 I've put up a few posts with high praise for this years Gotama.  But... there are places I would not use them.  It's pretty clear tromano is right that skinning on hard snow with rocker would be an exercise in frustration.  Also, the G is great on hardpack if you have room to lay them over and carve, but if you dont....  Threading my way at low speeds through crowds of people they were a little vague -- which makes me think hardpack in the trees might not be such a great idea.
post #11 of 21
 I don't know why anyone would want to skin on or skis trees on hardpack, and I doubt that's the OP's goal.
post #12 of 21
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 I don't know why anyone would want to skin on or skis trees on hardpack, and I doubt that's the OP's goal.

its not but after yesterdays watching dave pull away why I slid sideways was frustrating to say the least. i had camber but that felt much more awkward than anything i ever did in SLC.

90-100ish cambered is ideal if he is mountain touring binding. 
post #13 of 21
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 I don't know why anyone would want to skin on or skis trees on hardpack, and I doubt that's the OP's goal.

I guess it depends on the weather. But if you are out with a group and each make a few runs down something... Even on  a nice powder day the skin track can get a little icy.
post #14 of 21
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 I've put up a few posts with high praise for this years Gotama.  But... there are places I would not use them.  It's pretty clear tromano is right that skinning on hard snow with rocker would be an exercise in frustration.  Also, the G is great on hardpack if you have room to lay them over and carve, but if you dont....  Threading my way at low speeds through crowds of people they were a little vague -- which makes me think hardpack in the trees might not be such a great idea.




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I would be cautious about choosing a rockered ski for touring, especially on the EC. climbing on hardpack / 2-D snow is hard on a rockered ski. $.02.


    True to some extent. However first of all I don't plan on doing any major touring with them...just some side country stuff. Not only are they going to be my back country skis but they will also be my powder skis. Also you guys are right because of the rocker it may be somewhat for difficult skinning then a normal camber ski. But the rocker will make it ski shorter in the trees and give it more float in the pow. So actually I kinda want rocker, because I would like to get a longer ski like a 186. As far as hard pack performance, its a 100mm + waisted ski with rocker in tip and tail. Its not going to ski as well as my other skis on hard snow but it will get the job done. Like i said its going to mostly be my powder ski that i also use for some skinning around the side country.

Thanks again
post #15 of 21
There's powder in the East?  Do you hire Amy Winehouse and Lindsay Lohan to ski in front of you all day?
post #16 of 21

Sorry for the double post here, too.  Don't forget the K2 Extreme or Public Enemy (same ski, Extreme is the 2010 model).


Edited by guroo270 - 12/4/09 at 1:56pm
post #17 of 21
I am actually in the market for a ski for almost exactly what you describe (although I ski out west). I am not the most knowledgeable person on these boards, but I have been lurking a lot, and reading a lot, and putting in some legwork. Perhaps I can help. Here is the current list of skis I have compiled to demo this winter:
K2 Obsethed & Kung Fujas (The KF is near the bottom of my list as I don't care about park skiing, but I might demo it)
Rossignol Phantom 97
Rossignol SAS series (probably the S5)
Volkl Gotama
Line Prophet 100
Salomon Shogun
PMGear Bro (not sure how much luck you'll have finding this one out east).

I also know that Dynastar and Blizzard make some skis in this range, and people generally have good things to say but I haven't done enough research to add them to my list yet. Just my 2 cents. Take it for what its worth.
post #18 of 21
Sorry for double post.
post #19 of 21
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There's powder in the East?  Do you hire Amy Winehouse and Lindsay Lohan to ski in front of you all day?

Pic taken at Jay peak...


LMAO! No...I'm pretty sure we have lots of pow in the east...you have just yet to discover it =D

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Sorry for the double post here, too.  Don't forget the K2 Extreme or Public Enemy (same ski, Extreme is the 2010 model).


   Yeah both of those are great skis...However, they would be somewhat useless for me to buy. I already own the P90 which are similar to both of them. The only reason I want to get another ski as a back country Powder ski is that i don't want my main set of skis to have AT bindings mounted on them. AT bindings are heavy and cumbersome. Also on those really epic pow days at Cannon, Smuggs, Jay, or even if I take them out West... I would like a wider ski...

Thanks again...
post #20 of 21
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Pic taken at Jay peak...


LMAO! No...I'm pretty sure we have lots of pow in the east...you have just yet to discover it =D
man, what a great picture.  
post #21 of 21
 Something with loads of float for that cold east coast stuff! 120mm underfoot or better. Rocker without a doubt. 

Get some Black Diamond Megawatts or Zealots. 
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