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Bindings for Fischer RC4's w/ Worldcup plate?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
My daughter just picked up a used pair of Fischer RC4 Worldcup SL's.  They have Fischer Worldcup plates, which have pre-drilled holes for various sole lengths.  Her sole length is well within range, so no problem there.

I imagine that Fischer or Tyrolia bindings would be ideal in terms of matching screw hole patterns, but we don't have access to any affordably.  We have a few sets of Marker's kicking around, and might be able to scrounge up some Salomon's; are there any brands that we should be considering or avoiding? 

My husband has been mounting bindings for us for years, but this is our first go-round with the Fischer plate.

Thanks for any information.

(edited for spelling error)
Edited by Hikeandski - 11/8/09 at 5:57am
post #2 of 15
Really versatile plate. Markers and Salomons were both used extensively by racers on that plate long before Fischer set up their private label deal with Tyrolia. Either will work just fine.
post #3 of 15
If it was predrilled for Tyrolia I don't see how Marker or Salomon would fit.

Consider this binding: http://cgi.ebay.com/Tyrolia-2009-FreeFlex-PRO-11-red-white-ski-bindings_W0QQitemZ350274577258QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518dfde36a

Cheers,

Michael
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by Muleski View Post

Really versatile plate. Markers and Salomons were both used extensively by racers on that plate long before Fischer set up their private label deal with Tyrolia. Either will work just fine.

I'm guessing this is a Jr ski from more than 2 seasons ago.... in which case the plate is basically a 10mm version of the CP13 plate. Which will only take Tyrolia/Fischer/Head etc. bindings.

As Muleski says, the adult plate can be drilled any which way, but I'm pretty sure that's not what we're talking about here.

These freeflex bindings would all work (Head colors on Fischer skis could be considered offensive )

http://www.levelninesports.com/head-free-flex-plus-ski-bindings-flash-red-p-6027.html (FF+ 11)
http://www.levelninesports.com/head-free-flex-pro-ski-bindings-whitegreen-p-4274.html (FF Pro 11)
http://www.levelninesports.com/head-free-flex-plus-whitegreen-ski-bindings-p-6152.html (FF+ 14)

Just about any of the Tyrolia-family flat mounting bindings will work too - LD12, Mojo, Peak ... same hole pattern. Fischer freeflex bindings like FR11, Z11, FR13, Z13 etc. crop up on EBay pretty regularly (e.g. Denver Wholesale Skis).
post #5 of 15

DO any of the shops by you offer a race program, discount pricing from Fischer, for racers?

post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
Here's the plate in question; the Marker's don't seem to fit, though he said that the Salomon looked like it didn't have the problem screw.  Sounds like Salomon's won't from the posts above.

http://img267.imageshack.us/i/fischerplate.jpg/

She's not training with the race program, so not sure whether any of the local shops would accommodate, but will be training with her school. She picked these up at a ski swap as she needed a pair of slalom skis for this year.  I'm thinking that anything a ski shop wants to do is going to be well over budget anyway.  I'm inclined to watch eBay and wait for the right bindings, but my husband is anxious to mount them up even if the fit isn't right, which makes me nervous, but maybe that's just me.
post #7 of 15
I would buy one of the freeflex bindings linked to above.
post #8 of 15
DO NOT MOUNT ANYTHING BUT TYROLIA (FISCHER, HEAD, ELAN etc.) BINDINGS ON THAT PLATE!

It is not a solid plate. There is no material on the underside of the plate except around each hole (plus a few supporting struts). If you drill and screw into that plate you'll be biting into 2mm of material and a whole lot of air.
post #9 of 15
Sorry for the misinformation on my part. I was under the assumption that the ski had the two piece black, flat Fischer plate that was actually made by VIST. That was the standard plate on all of their race skis for years. Came flat, and had to be drilled, and would accept pretty much any binding. I had not clued into "pre-drilled", and assumed "previously drilled". Ignore my previous comment, please. If it's a pre-drilled, integrated plate for Fischer, then it sounds like you need a Fischer/Tyrolia/Elan/Head, etc. binding. Another option MIGHT be to find any older, beat Fisher, and to swap the plates. Those plates are pretty indestructible. Don't know if that's possible or not.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Muleski View Post

Sorry for the misinformation on my part. I was under the assumption that the ski had the two piece black, flat Fischer plate that was actually made by VIST.
I guess those plates are called different. I was thinking same as you, but obviously Fischer/Vist racing plates are nowadays called something else, and World cup plates are not their racing plates :) Even this year, Fischer racing plates are still same as they were... two piece, flat and without pre-drilled holes, looking like this.
But until I saw photo of this particular plate, I was sure too OP is talking about this plate.
post #11 of 15
Just curious. Question for Hikeandski, the OP. What length is the ski? I'm guessing that it's a junior ski? I've never seen that plate, and I've seen an awful lot of adult Fischer race skis. I'm just interested for my own education. Thanks.
post #12 of 15
Primoz & Muleski - the junior race skis all had this 'World Cup Jr.' plate until 2 seasons ago - I have four pairs of Fischer jr. race skis covering the seasons '05, '06, '07 and '08, all of which have the 'World Cup Jr.' plate. From the '09 season the jr. skis got the same plate as the adult skis, which is the Tyrolia Raceplate RDX.

I believe you're both correct in saying that the adult skis used to have a Fischer/Vist plate. The current plate is definitely the Fischer/Tyrolia Raceplate RDX plate (both my '06 SLs and '07 GSs have this plate).

This one:

http://www.tyrolia.com/public/ski-bindings/ski-binding-line-200910/plates/raceplate-rdx/index.html

Edit: I think the WC SG/DH skis may have Vist plates instead of the RDX.

Edit2: Based on the image above, I'd guess at an '08 SL in 145cm (on an '08 GS in 140 the big white RC4 logo is slightly covered by the back end of the plate).
Edited by Squawker - 11/8/09 at 12:50pm
post #13 of 15
Thanks. When I saw " Fischer 4C4 Worldcup SL"  in the OP's post, I never thought junior ski. Thought it might been a J1, or J2 {age 15+} with an adult race ski. Thanks for the info.
post #14 of 15
Squawker you are right about Tyrolia RDX. After seeing your link, plates look much more like Fischer plates then Vist plates from my link. I actually went to basement, and check my skis (this years WC GS) and plate is really like Tyrolia RDX, just that it's all black. So once again I was wrong :)
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Sorry, my bad.  I should have mentioned Jr.  They're 135's, not sure what year.  They might be a tad short for her, but she's only done GS before and she's fairly light (4'10" and somewhere around 80-85 pounds, though a very aggressive skier) so I think they'll be good for her first exposure to tighter courses.
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