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What would your suggestion be for the following skier?

My friend's son is 15 and wants to ski this year. He is pretty much a beginner; he is 5'6" tall and 120 lbs. He is looking for freestyle skis and had a budget of $400.00 including taxes. I know that's not a lot of money for everything including boots and poles but that is all they can afford. Of course he wants to get the best skis he can for his budget. Thanks for any help you can offer.
post #2 of 9
check out some ski swaps, can find some good deals.
post #3 of 9
My advice is actually to get the best boots you can afford, and scrimp on the skis.  (Unless he's gonna outgrow the boots in six months, which can be a real problem sometimes.)  It's really easy to find used skis -- try local ski swaps, or ebay/craigslist.

For a beginner, skis aren't going to make a huge difference.  Comfortable, properly-fit boots will.

I do recommend avoiding really really low-end beginner skis, since they often are cheaply made and won't hold up.  Most used skis are just fine and have years of use left on them.
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The ski swaps is a good idea. Unfortunately, I missed them all by the time I was asked by his mom to do this for her.

As for the used route, it's a good idea but time consuming because I don't want to put him on anything longer than 150cm since he's only 120 lbs. and those are hard to find and decent ones even harder. Thanks for your input, though, as it is much appreciated.
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Originally Posted by FlipFlop View Post

The ski swaps is a good idea. Unfortunately, I missed them all by the time I was asked by his mom to do this for her.

As for the used route, it's a good idea but time consuming because I don't want to put him on anything longer than 150cm since he's only 120 lbs. and those are hard to find and decent ones even harder. Thanks for your input, though, as it is much appreciated.
 

I was 120 lbs. and handled 161cm just fine.  That said, I wasn't a beginner, so I suppose 150cm is a good idea.  At 5'6", though, with a budget of $400, he might be better off renting for a year especially as a beginner.  Are his feet done growing?  If so, put the majority of the money into good boots- those will last him longer than skis.
post #6 of 9
Your son is 15 -- there is a good chance that his feet will still grow.  My son is also 15 and his shoe size has increased by 1 each year for the past four years.  IMHO, the "buy boots first" rule should only apply to adults.  If a ski is a little short in the second year, maybe you tell the kid to just deal with it.  Can't really do that with a boot that's too small.
post #7 of 9
I'd suggest against buying. At 5'6" 120lbs, he's almost guaranteed to put on a good bit of weight in the next couple years, and probably a few inches as well. That will make any ski that works for him now too small and soft soon. And with a budget of $400, you're going to be so limited in your choices to start, that it's not really worth the expenditure.

As far as freestyle skis, forget them. I'm sure your friend's son wants to be a park rat, and do rails and hits and the pipe. Unlike most others on this forum, I have been a park skier. Freestyle skis are designed to perform well in the park. They are not designed to perform well for a beginner. Besides which, you need to emphasize to him that he needs to be an advanced skier before he should start doing anything that would require a park-designed twin tip. He will get a lot more respect from park skiers such as myself by developing his skills than by slapping on a pair of 4 year old Rossi Scratches. I don't mean to be disrespectful towards this kid, but I feel the need to be mercilessly blunt when presented with a situation like this. A kid who is a beginner now will not have the skills to be in a full-blown park for at least 2 years, most likely more, since he probably won't be getting more than 20 days on snow per year. And the window of opportunity for skiing park is actually fairly short. I'm still short of 30, and most of my friends and I have moved away from park as the primary focus of our skiing. It's just too rough on a person's body to do for too long, it's something for teenagers and college kids. Being a beginner at 15, he's most likely started far too late to develop park skills in a time span where his body will tolerate it. 

With what he seems to want, and his budget, tell him to snowboard. The progression into park on a board is shorter, and decent equipment is typically a bit less expensive.
post #8 of 9
Find a local shop with a lease program.
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Originally Posted by freeski919 View Post

I'd suggest against buying. At 5'6" 120lbs, he's almost guaranteed to put on a good bit of weight in the next couple years, and probably a few inches as well. That will make any ski that works for him now too small and soft soon. And with a budget of $400, you're going to be so limited in your choices to start, that it's not really worth the expenditure.

As far as freestyle skis, forget them. I'm sure your friend's son wants to be a park rat, and do rails and hits and the pipe. Unlike most others on this forum, I have been a park skier. Freestyle skis are designed to perform well in the park. They are not designed to perform well for a beginner. Besides which, you need to emphasize to him that he needs to be an advanced skier before he should start doing anything that would require a park-designed twin tip. He will get a lot more respect from park skiers such as myself by developing his skills than by slapping on a pair of 4 year old Rossi Scratches. I don't mean to be disrespectful towards this kid, but I feel the need to be mercilessly blunt when presented with a situation like this. A kid who is a beginner now will not have the skills to be in a full-blown park for at least 2 years, most likely more, since he probably won't be getting more than 20 days on snow per year. And the window of opportunity for skiing park is actually fairly short. I'm still short of 30, and most of my friends and I have moved away from park as the primary focus of our skiing. It's just too rough on a person's body to do for too long, it's something for teenagers and college kids. Being a beginner at 15, he's most likely started far too late to develop park skills in a time span where his body will tolerate it. 

With what he seems to want, and his budget, tell him to snowboard. The progression into park on a board is shorter, and decent equipment is typically a bit less expensive.
 

Thanks very much, I've already come to those conclusions and am gently easing his mind around them. The only thing I disagree with is telling him to snowboard! I'm trying to get all the snowboarders to turn to skiing and get those snowboarders off the hill! You are working against me here! Actually, he was snowboarding up until this year and now he wants to come over to the bright side and start skiing.
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