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Question about footbeds, specifically over the counter footbeds.

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
Hello there.  I chimed in on another persons thread in the General Discussion section, but didn't want to litter his thread with my questions.  Here is where we are at so far:

My post:
Question about footbeds, specifically Superfeet.  A little background, I have Agent 120's in 27.5.  I am pretty happy with the boots, although I have a *little* too much room in the toe box.  I would like the toe box to be a tiny bit tighter.  The rest of the boot is very tight, which is how I like it. 

I have flat feet.  I am nervous about getting an off the shelf footbed.  Even though the stock footbeds (I have the stock ones and a pair from Dragon 120's, I am told they are basically the same boot) seems to be pretty crappy to me, they don't have a high arch.  I don't have any pain with these boots and with hockey skates I will get TONS of pain with a boot that has a high arch.... basically I can only wear Tacks.  I do not want to replicate this in my ski boots.

Thoughts?

Responses:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post
Go to a shop that will let you compare the different off the shelf Superfeet footbeds - blue. green, black, orange, berry - by standing with one foot on one color and the other on another color.  Compare, mix and match until you find the Superfeet footbed that best suits you.  I'm guessing that it will be the blue or maybe the black (lowest arch), but try them all.  Then buy it, because all Superfeet have a 60 day money-back guarantee so if they don't work for you go back and get your refund.  

I don't expect the footbeds will help with your extra toe room though, but they're likely to reduce foot fatigue and increase your performance.  

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Originally Posted by JDoyal View Post
It really depends on your foot and how it is "built" there are more than one type of "flat foot". My first question is why an off the shelf foot bed? Your foot may or may not tolerate the arch of even the lowest OTS footbed. Custom would probably work much better for you. Again, without seeing the foot this is all speculation at best.

My reponse:
Just because I don't really have the money to drop on custom footbeds this year, and being that I am not having *too* much trouble with my stock footbeds, I was hoping for this year I could find a cheaper solution that would gain me a little extra performance, and try that out for a season. 

If it helps I have a skinny heel, slightly narrow foot, and a flat arch.

Thanks guys!
post #2 of 8
You will get many different opinions here to this question, but here is mine.  There is nothing you said so far that screams footbeds will make you better.  Perhaps with more information I would change my mind, but that is where I'm at now.  Not everyone needs footbeds and not everyone makes dramatic gains from the addition of footbeds.  They are simply one tool in a host of modifications that may be necessary for you and your equipment.  Some of which can be made without footbeds.

Lou
post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the response Lou.  I thought I would have a lot of opinions in this thread, but I guess not. 

Is there anything I can do to help my small issue? 

I have done some research and as far as I can tell footbeds push your foot back and raise it a little?  What issues are footbeds good at alleviating?  Is there a few things, in your mind at least, that they "always" help (generalizing here).  In my case, I am not too concerned with comfort, although I suppose added comfort with no decrease in performance is always good.
post #4 of 8
 skier,

Without any of us seeing your feet it is impossible to make any recommendations.  There are just too many variables to discuss here and address.  You may be able to get sufficient support from a trim to fit product or may really benefit from a properly posted custom footbed.
post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 
    Quote:
Originally Posted by bud heishman View Post

 skier,

Without any of us seeing your feet it is impossible to make any recommendations.  There are just too many variables to discuss here and address.  You may be able to get sufficient support from a trim to fit product or may really benefit from a properly posted custom footbed.
I understand.

What about this question, is there a general benefit to an aftermarket footbed?  And what are the normal reasons one feels the need for one?
post #6 of 8
 Well, generally trim to fit footbeds are a bit better than a stock shapeless insole because they:
  • have a shaped heel cup which support the heel in a more shock absorbing fashion keeping the fatty tissue under the heel bone thicker and able to better absorb impacts.
  • provide some arch support (if your arch happens to roughly match the pre-molded shape).
  • may provide some metatarsal arch support and/or increased heel cushionin

I will generally opt for trim to fits when the skier has a foot shape that resembles the shape of the preformed footbed and has no other anomalies which would be better addressed with a custom insole.  
post #7 of 8
I agree with Bud.  There are just too many issues and complexities to try and generalize. However, I'll stick with my opinion that the general thought that purchasing footbeds is a necessity for good skiing or that you'll automatically ski better with them  is a fallacy. 

Without an expert looking at your alignment and your boots and talking with you about perceived issues the best thing in general that can be said is they are probably more comfortable.  So lacking an expert to look at all phases of alignment experiment with your own on binding position or ramp angle or get your skis well tuned more often and you will probably get more benefit.
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
You guys have been a big help, I appreciate it.
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