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slight rust on edges

post #1 of 5
Thread Starter 
i am interested in starting to tune and wax all of our skis/boards and have another question, i know its probably a simple one for you guys that have been doing this, but im unsure of it. Two pairs of skis and one board i will be taking care of have a couple rust spots on the edges, barely visible but you can feel them with your fingertips. Do i use a "gummi" stone and run it over the edge, keeping it flat on the ski base to remove the rust, then use a finer stone to polish them so you dont feel anything, then proceed with applying hot wax to clean the base, then wax to protect the base? will the stone damage the edge or anything like that, i dont want to change any angles or anything, just nervous about screwing something up. thank you for your help, i know i have lots of questions, ill get the hang of it eventually. 
post #2 of 5
the rust will come right off when u ski... But if it bothers you prior to waxing, which it would me. Lightly brush the edge with gummi stone. As long as you don't press the gummi stone in the edge and don't go over it 20 times (should NOT exceed 3-4 times), you shouldn't do any damage to your edge.

tuning is fun! Others will chim is regarding the angle you should be holding your gummi at. After filling and polishing with a diamond, one quick light rub at 45 degrees to the base on the edge will remove the burrs.
post #3 of 5
keep the gummi off the base if possible. it will mar the surface. I'd not be afraid to take more passes than shoal007 suggests, as long as you taper your work; don't just work the location of the rust or it will become depressed, relative to the rest of the edge. Work into and out of the affected area. I certainly agree to go lightly with the pressure. Heavy pressure with any edge tool generally results in rolling the tool and modifying the edge angle.

There is tons of stuff for you can learn in this area. One of our sponsors, SlideWright, has lots of videos to help you out as well as products to buy: http://www.slidewright.com/weblog/ (scroll down and look for topics on the right). It pays, in the long run, to purchase quality tools, especially files. Ski edges are high quality steel and require sharp, quality tools to work them. Your garden variety hardware store mill-bastard file isn't going to last as long or do as good a job as a fine tool such as a BLU-DAN.

Edge angle guides are also invaluable. This is where you have to make decisions that will commit you to maintaining certain edge angles. A 1 degree base and a 2 degree side bevel are pretty common and a good place to begin. You'll find plenty of discussions on this site as to what other angles you might want to consider. You use the guides with your files, diamond stones and ceramic stones. Gummis you just use by hand.

A light weight set of gloves will save your hands while tuning. Both filings and sharp edges can cause injury. I've seen guys that have severed tendons on uber-sharp race skis. More common are scrapes and small cuts, but better protected than not. Some guys tape their fingers in lieu of or in addition to gloves.

Tuning can be fun and adds a new dimension to your skiing and riding. A smooth edge is faster and more predictable than a burred or gouged one. Enjoy!

post #4 of 5
Thread Starter 
thanks for the info. ive been reading alot on here, great site. ive got so much to learn. for the edges i can use the "Ski Visions" side and base bevel tool correct? With time possibly buy another tool, one for roughing one for finishing. I just dont want to screw up anything, lol. We are just rec skiers, no racing, so i will probably stick to the normal angles and not try to get crazy. I just want all the equipment in good condition you know, edges bases etc...... i have 5 or 6 pairs of skis and 2 snowboards between myself, daughter, my girlfriend and her 3 kids, so it will deff. pay off, also, if i learn i know its done right.
post #5 of 5
 monkers, welcome to the wonderful world of ski tuning!  if you don't have a vice that's a must have.

Basic tool setup would be:
Edge bevel guides
Diamond stones
Metal scraper
Brake retainers
Wax Iron/All temp hyrdo wax
Plastic scraper
Brass brush 
Horsehair or Nylon brush.
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