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I just got new pair of PE's... Should I get them waxed and tuned before I use them?

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
I just got a new pair of 08 Public Enemys and I'm not sure if I should get them waxed and tuned first.  The edges seem sharp but I'm not sure about the bases.

Thanks!
post #2 of 17
Actually new, not just new to you?  If so, wax 'em and ski 'em.  I wouldn't get them tuned.
post #3 of 17
For me...new skis get their bases checked for flatness, they often become base-high after curing. After they are deemed flat or made flat by a grind, they get their edges beveled, 1 degree base, 3 side. Only after that are the bases ready to be cleaned and waxed, several times.

Not tuning skis before skiing makes no sense to me at all.
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
Ok thanks guys.
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by eastskier27 View Post

Ok thanks guys.

Is that one of the ones with the soft scratchable PE top sheet?

I've always wondered if the top sheet could be protected by a hard wax.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Yeah it is and I dont like it. I haven't even used it and its scratched. It feels like p-tex but I'm not sure. I was wondering the same thing about covering that with wax...
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by eastskier27 View Post

Yeah it is and I dont like it. I haven't even used it and its scratched. It feels like p-tex but I'm not sure. I was wondering the same thing about covering that with wax...

got any, blue or harder?
post #8 of 17
Thread Starter 
no I don't
post #9 of 17
I have the same skis (maybe 07 - black,red,white with a general cop and bad guy theme) - anyway, it has the 'ptex' top sheet. I have tried all kinds of things to keep it together (waxes, tapes etc) with no luck. I have quite a few chunks missing now.
BUT
the skis rock, i have no complaints , except the length, I bought the longest available (179) but would've likes something a bit longer - mainly because I am not a park rat.

as for OQ

I would recommend waxing them with 'x' wax where x = a good wax for your snow but don't bother with a tune. Use them for a week or two first.
post #10 of 17
Check the angles, if they are good then just buff em with 600 and then 1400 diamind stones to make sure they are perfect (take the bur off with Gummi)

Then de wax to get rip of the thin crud wax the manufacturers spray on and then several nice layers of base prep (Dominator) and then several waxings with your prefered wax

Then brush, brush, brush and brush. Result a saturated fast base that will last ages

My new Nomads turned up on Monday and thats exactly what I did/am doing to then (on their third base prep wax at moment)

Oh I also used Autoglym Diamnd car polish on the tops to try and make that stay tidy a bit longer
post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post

Actually new, not just new to you?  If so, wax 'em and ski 'em.  I wouldn't get them tuned.
 

This is what i would do.  They are not race skis.

Check em with a true bar.  Then decide if they need extra work.  They are recreational skis.

but I am no expert on tuning.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by madmole View Post

Check the angles, if they are good then just buff em with 600 and then 1400 diamind stones to make sure they are perfect (take the bur off with Gummi)

Then de wax to get rip of the thin crud wax the manufacturers spray on and then several nice layers of base prep (Dominator) and then several waxings with your prefered wax


Thanks... I'm going to try that and see how it works
Then brush, brush, brush and brush. Result a saturated fast base that will last ages

My new Nomads turned up on Monday and thats exactly what I did/am doing to then (on their third base prep wax at moment)

Oh I also used Autoglym Diamnd car polish on the tops to try and make that stay tidy a bit longer
 
post #13 of 17
You folks who do not tune and bevel edges are missing so much its beyond words to describe. One reason you think its not important is because you have not experienced it. Not dissin' anyone, just hoping you understand a bit more about it. The reason you don't miss the tune is because you don't know what you are missing.

The skis are engineered to ski based on certain edge parameters, those parameters are built into the ski, but, when they cure-and every ski cures differently from another, over a period of months from manufacture-they lose those parameters and are often base-high. In other words the bases are not even flat.

Has ALWAYS made my skis seem TWICE as good as before...Faster, easier to turn, sharper turning, less chatter, more stable, track better....the benefits so outweigh the cost.

Too bad you don't know what you are missing if you don't miss it.
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Snowfan View Post

You folks who do not tune and bevel edges are missing so much its beyond words to describe.
 
True for the most part, but not with PEs.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
Why not for PE's?
post #16 of 17
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Originally Posted by Snowfan View Post

Has ALWAYS made my skis seem TWICE as good as before...Faster, easier to turn, sharper turning, less chatter, more stable, track better....the benefits so outweigh the cost.

Too bad you don't know what you are missing if you don't miss it.

Last new pair of skis I bought was some watea 94's.  Did not get them tuned when they were new.  I did get a base grind and tune last year 'cause I did a number on them with some early season rocks.  I did not notice that they skied noticeably differently.  Maybe not all skis come from the factory needing a tune and I got lucky, or maybe I can't tell the difference, or maybe it's all in your head. 

To the OP, just like almost anything you can ask on the internet, you've now got dissenting opinions.  Just go do what makes you happy.
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by eastskier27 View Post

Why not for PE's?


They are not meant to hold an edge like some types of skis.  That's not what they do.  Ski em,  Use your true bar.  Keep em tuned but for fun.  Ride em in the woods and beat em into the ground.  They are twin tip, all mountain skis, not race skis.  Great ski, too.
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