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After the Fall

post #1 of 49
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Someone has a topic about crashes in general skiing. If i wipe out on a trail, i have to go back and ski it again, otherwise the stupid trail beats me. My kid sister is the opposite. She falls on a trail, she thinks its jinxed. Will never ski it again, even if its a bunny trail.
People react in different ways to falling. I get pissed, some people get embarassed, some laugh some cry.
What about you?
post #2 of 49
I laugh at my own foolishness and remember to respect the whole mountain.

Except in bumps, where I have actually seen the bumps rearrange themselves when they see my coming. They have such a sense of humor.
post #3 of 49
Weems is very right. Sometimes even the trees jump right out in fron of you, which can be a rather interesting problem here in the NW with the Douglas Firs. If Douglas wants to fight, don't take him on. He always wins.

I slipped and fell on ice right outside the batheroom at the lodge yesterday. I'll never go to the bathroom again.
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post #5 of 49
My wife stepped on the tail of my ski the other day as we were unloading from the lift. That caused me to fall. In spite of that I went back and skied with her some more. But then we have a very special relationship. There's nothing i wouldn't do for her and there's nothing she wouldn't do for me; and that's how we go through life, doing nothing for each other.
post #6 of 49
My mother's theory, many many years ago, was:
"If you fall, at least once, while skiing a run, then it's challenging enough, and worth
skiing again..."
Now at 60some she's happy playing granny to my two kids, filling them with "pay attention, it's too dangerous there" even on the bunny hill! Life is strange.
I take the occasional fall as a signal I wasn't paying proper attention to the terrain, or wasn't using the correct tecnique/speed for that particular run.
By all means I'll go back and ski it again, until I get it right.
post #7 of 49
Son ..... "What happened? You OK?"

Me ....... "Nothing happened! I got tired and decided to lay down and rest!"
post #8 of 49
Laugh lots usually (especially on pow days) but once every 10 yrs or so I fall hard enough to cry out loud, cuss lots and then go home and get really pissed off with myself. I then have a few beers and laugh some more.

As a surfer ya get used to "crashing" and as a skier ya get used to "crashing" in public.


Bumps do that to you as well. I reckon they all get together each evening and have a little bump clinic and work out which bump will be the "comedy act" bump for the day.

Oz [img]smile.gif[/img]

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 17, 2002 02:25 PM: Message edited 1 time, by man from oz ]</font>
post #9 of 49
What a topic header!!! I played the Maggie role in a college production of After the Fall.

But anyway..... I'm learning that falling in powder can be fun!
post #10 of 49
But some trails to have lttle gremlins that are gonna try and getcha'!
post #11 of 49
Ya just got to Hate those tricky bumps.You look down on a run and they are all looking so small so innocent, soft and vary friendly like. THEN you turn your skis into them and They rear up thier Butt heads,unleashing the snow snakes that are hidden under that 4 inches of new snow. You can hear them laughing as you try to hack your way down the mountain.
As to our topic. What I do after the fall is whine about the tune on my skis or how these new poles can't be right for me. or the 3rd buckle on my left boot is to loose. It has to be the gear! I ate a bad power bar for lunch.It has to be something, it can't be My fault, Nope no way did I screw up that turn. I'm sure it had to be a bad wax job.
post #12 of 49

THere not gremlins, they're powder snakes. Usually they just get kids but every once in awhile, for fun, they get grown-ups too.

If you and Mark (?) can get to Wolf Creek next year I have a couple of extra rooms.
post #13 of 49
As the hero said in Raiders of the Lost Arc..."SNAKES, IT HAD TO BE SNAKES!!!"

Thanks Tom. We will let you know what next years plans are! [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #14 of 49
Okay, here’s one that’s not exactly a fall, but a really cool ski pro’s trick in reaction to a mistake.

I learned it watching a teacher of mine years ago, and I don’t want to reveal the name because I don’t want this person to know I observed and adopted this technique.

Whenever, I have a glitch in a turn (a lost edge, or slight out of balance, or near fall), I immediately turn my head and look back at the snow where the mistake happened. The implication of this is so elegant and beautiful: it couldn’t have been me screwing up so it must have been something in the snow! –an ice patch, a death cookie, a twig—whatever.

The quicker you turn to look back, the more obvious you are in assigning blame to the rogue slope rather than your own incompetence. It’s a beautiful thing. It’s like blaming the problem on the tune. As a matter of fact, if you can’t turn around quick enough, then stop. Take one ski off. Look at the bottom of it. And…(here’s the most important part!) shake your head in disbelief. (Damn skis!)
post #15 of 49
Weems, LOL! Ya' know, speaking of catching edges, that almost never happens to me, and if it does, I don't fall. But that is probably one of the most jolting things that ever happens in skiing. but since it hardly ever happpens, Ive never been able to figure out the dynamics of what makes it happen.
post #16 of 49
So now I know why your always looking back up the hill Weems.
post #17 of 49
I'm busted!

I'm still trying to figure out the corresponding move on a snowboard.
post #18 of 49
Lisamarie. I'm ignorant. What's LOL?

The dynamics of catching an edge? Basically it's edging the downhill edge of a ski--most often in the tip--so quickly that the ski basically stops moving down the hill almost exactly when you expect it to. If you don't fall, then you are very agile.

This is my most common move on a snowboard-and it reallyreallyreallyreallyreallyreally
hurts. And I don't laugh because I'm too busy groaning, and picking up the pieces of my shattered wrists.
post #19 of 49
LOL; laughing out loud
Rofl: rolling on the floor laughing
Roflmao; rolling on the floor laugh my ... off
thanks for the explaination!
post #20 of 49
LOL=Laugh(ing) Out Loud
ROFL=Rolling On Floor Laughing
ROFLMAO=Rolling On Floor Laughing My A## Off

If you pick up the ski, look at the bases, and shake your head in disbelief...

Don't forget to yell "I told them to fix that"!

BTW, welcome to EpicSki weems. Your skiing prose and comments over the years (in other media forms) has helped me a lot...

I still have a copy of that last page in powder mag (late 70's?) of you skiing on a powder day, with your tongue hanging out to your chin... Reminded me of the Einstein tongue-out picture...


<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ March 17, 2002 08:13 PM: Message edited 1 time, by SnoKarver ]</font>
post #21 of 49
Thanks. Those were fun days with Powder. Neil Stebbins, the editor, used to let us write anything we wanted. It wasn't so packaged, angled, and targeted at the lowest common denominator, as it seems sometimes today.

On the other hand, as I reread some of that I become aware of how much of a hack writer I was. It was fun stuff to put down, but there sure was a lot of clutter.
post #22 of 49
As skiers, it's Snow Snakes !!!

After a fall like I took in China bowl yesterday, for me it's - don't move until the stars clear, take Deep breath, see if every thing can still move, thank Leedom for making a great helmet, stand up, gather your gear and try not to screw up on the next turn. [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]redface.gif[/img]

post #23 of 49
...and Mogul Mice! [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #24 of 49
I once did an article for Skiing called "How the Racer's Crash"--a takeoff on the classic book of Warren Witherell's.

The premises were:
1. It is important to crash with flair and commitment. Make it a judgeable event, or don't do it all.
2. The secret to a great crash is when the skier struggles to avoid the crash until way past the point where the crash is totally inevitable. Such a scenario breeds elegance and originality to a crash, and leaves the spectators in awe of the courageous incompetence.

Of course, it also breeds injuries--therefore it should remain in the realm of the competitors for whom such a risk is acceptable. For recreational skiers, go with the fall, fall to the side, and keep your knees!

And now, of course, there are the bordercross/skiercross crashes. A mix of roller derby, stock car racing, and motocross--we should see a whole new generation of crash finesse.

post #25 of 49


That is still the reason I ski! Every moment is leading to the feeling of falling. Most of the time my skis catch up to me. Sometimes not.
Fist: When falling, fall. Trying to save ones self often leads to added velocity and impact with more distant objects. Bad For ACL's too I am told.
After the fall, I usually cant' remember where I am, so skiing the same run is a non issue.


post #26 of 49
definately ski it again. . . it has a debt to pay.
post #27 of 49
Weems, How much for a private lession in The fine Art of Covering up for Lousy skiing
post #28 of 49
Yep Weems - I have often told students (and instructors) that there is nothing wrong with crashing in a clinic, "just make sure its not a half-a**ed crash! If you go down, do it with passion, gusto, commitment. I want to see snow flying and hear shouting or screaming!" I would say. Besides being fun and relaxing for them to see it this way, if you can get skiers to take control of their own fall (by trying to make it more dramatic) there are less likely to get injured than they are if they just let gravity and momentum have its way with them.
post #29 of 49
He wants to hear shouting or screaming... Does that include throwing a temper tantrum and beating the ground with my poles? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Very comical at Fernie; I had skied through a really challenging segment of a trail. I get to the easy part....BOOM!!!! [img]redface.gif[/img]

According to Mark, it really looked hilarious. I "allegdly" had a look on my face that was sort of "whaaa, that was sooo hard!' Then..crash! Oh well!
post #30 of 49
The only falls worth points are those where "packed powder" is what you have in your nose, mouth, ears, goggles, down your pants, up your jacket...

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