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post #31 of 43
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Uncle Louie, could you explain further your hesitation with Solitude?  I was thinking of going there with my 15-year-old son, maybe this Spring.  I'm a fearless but brittle level 7 and he's probably a level 8.  Thanks.    

Solitude's blue cruisers are a notch steeper than you'll find at Brighton, Alta, Park City, etc.  Not by a whole lot, but enough that an aspiring skier will be more intimidated there than at other places. 

Where do you ski mid-atlantic?  If you can ski the blacks at, say, Blue Mt. or 7 Springs you'll find plenty of terrain within your ability at Solitude, you just might not think of it as "easy cruisers".

For the original poster, their beginner kid would probably spend almost all of the day lapping the Moonbeam chair at the bottom of the hill.  At Alta or Brighton they'd find some top-to-bottom trails.
post #32 of 43
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Uncle Louie, could you explain further your hesitation with Solitude?  I was thinking of going there with my 15-year-old son, maybe this Spring.  I'm a fearless but brittle level 7 and he's probably a level 8.  Thanks.    

Give er a shot. Soli has some great groomed runs. The whole frontside of the hill is intermediate down low and advanced up top with some of the best groomers around. The scary stuff is all accesed through marked gates near the various lifts. Just stay out of the roped ares and you will be fine. The run out at the bottom of honeycomb is very scenic and should be easily do-able for a confident intermed if it has been groomed recently, check conditions once you arrive on the hill.

As stated alta has a lot to offer a mixed level family ski group. If you show up on a 3' dump day then you will be skiing pow and deep crud on every run, even the groomers. If you don't like the soft stuff then typically PC areas get less and might be prefered on a big day.
post #33 of 43
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Originally Posted by Jimski View Post

Uncle Louie, could you explain further your hesitation with Solitude?  I was thinking of going there with my 15-year-old son, maybe this Spring.  I'm a fearless but brittle level 7 and he's probably a level 8.  Thanks.    

I think you mis read my post...or at least my meaning. I was disagreeing with Dorm who said NOT to head to Solitude.  I love the place.

If you and you son are 7-8's I think you'll love the place.  They groom substantial terrain even at the expert level and there is plenty of ungroomed usually right next to the groomed stuff. You can bounce on an off the groomers at will.  There are plenty of steeps, but not long sustained vertical. There is beginner terrain and some terrain I would consider extreme.  (tromano covered this while I was writing)

No crowds, even on the weekends (walk ons for me the second week of Feb last year, on perfect snow, all day on a Saturday)....low cost, no negatives (assuming the road isn't closed for avi control)

GO !
post #34 of 43
So many options in SLC. What a great problem to have, huh?

Just keep in mind whatever you don't hit this time you can always get to next time.
post #35 of 43
 I didn't mean to recommend Snowbird to these people.  I was commenting on the other poster who said he prefers Snowbird to Alta even though it could be considered heresy.  I don't know The Bird well enough to say for sure, but I do remember some nice cruisers.  That's not what I like to spend my time on, so I don't know how many there are, but they are there.  I didn't enjoy Deer Valley that much when I was there.  The OP might like the terrain, but I found that the mountain was full of bad skiers who seemed to want to ski much too close to me and the lift system struck me as retarded.  The harder terrain was almost deserted which was nice although conditions were not great the day I was there.  Snow Basin is nice, my wife likes it.  I prefer Powder mountain for several reasons including the Vibe and the fact that I have friends who work there.  The OP might not like it as well, because I don't think their grooming is as good as the more mainstream resorts.  I have skied at Sundance for an assessment, really nice mountain.  I felt like I had a target pasted on my back as our slow moving assessment group was almost hit by some really bad skiers on several occasions.  One little punk came close enough that one our clinicians whacked him on the butt with a ski pole as he went by.  That was FUNNY.  I hope this is helpful.  Of course you could come to Jackson.  We lack low intermediate terrain, but we have great cruisers and groomed slopes.  The kids ranch could provide appropriate guidance for either of your kids, and there are plenty of non skiing options.  It's not all hairball like the reputation suggests.  
post #36 of 43
I can relate to post somewhat as I've been involved in a lot of spring break trips to either Whistler or Utah, usually involving lots of people of various abilities. My wife is terminal very low intermediate. She like Brighton and PCMR as there's a lot of easy cruisers. I love Solitude, but there are several of the chairs where the only way down is a steeper blue. Not hard for a middle of the road intermediate, but for timid lower level skiers, they might be intimidated. My own experience is that once my wife is intimidated by the angle of the slope, it's pretty hopeless from then on. I would never take her to Snowbird. There are plenty of middle of the road blue cruisers, but it seems easy to get into situations where there's no easy way out. Not to mention cliffs all over the place which make even the cat tracks spooky for less confident skiers. If the people are not timid, and have a go for it attitude, they'll probably have a great time at any of the Utah resorts. But if you have a timid skier in group, watch out. I've been cursed at a time or two. Trying not to repeat the experience.
post #37 of 43
Props to you, skibeast6, for laying out a very good description of what you're looking for.

Like Uncle Louie, I've got a fair amount of experience at making arrangements for groups of skiers with diverse abilities, so I'll throw my thoughts into the mix...

I would suggest that you start out by skiing one day each at Snowbasin, Deer Valley, and Park City (in that order).  Depending on conditions, each of those resorts has everything you're asking for (although Park City is pretty limited for the "extreme" kid).  By skiing a day at each, you'll get a good "feel" for which area works best for your group.  Then you can repeat days at the ones you like and look elsewhere if you still haven't found the right place.

After that, try a day at Alta but ONLY if it's not snowing (and didn't snow the night before).  Alta's gift of enormous snowfall is also potentially a real problem for "groomer" skiers.  Even though they do a good job of grooming on a wide variety of runs, if it snowed a lot the night before all that groomed snow is going to quickly turn into piles and clumps and moguls and your groomer skiers are not going to like it.  So if you have a no-snow window, give Alta a try.  In my opinion, it certainly has the most dramatic and beautiful scenery, so a sunny day is the way you want your group to see it.

Solitude is a real gem of a resort and certainly worth a trip.  Again, however, if your group mostly wants groomers then Solitude is not the best place to go after a big storm.

I would definitely not take the skiers you described to Snowbird.  And this is my own bias, but I would also skip Brighton.

Based on your description, I think Snowbasin is the perfect place for your group.  I would bet you would end up spending more days there than anywhere else.

Have fun.
post #38 of 43
Thanks guys!!   Sounds like Solitude could be a great match for us. 

Walt, I haven't skied Seven Springs or Blue Mt. yet, but I've skied the single blacks at Whitetail, the singles and the double black at Wintergreen, plus many single blacks at Sugarloaf (e.g., Hayburner, Narrow Gauge, Widowmaker) with my son last Spring. 

 
post #39 of 43
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Thanks guys!!   Sounds like Solitude could be a great match for us. 

Walt, I haven't skied Seven Springs or Blue Mt. yet, but I've skied the single blacks at Whitetail, the singles and the double black at Wintergreen, plus many single blacks at Sugarloaf (e.g., Hayburner, Narrow Gauge, Widowmaker) with my son last Spring. 

 

Solitude is a very nice area, but for your requirements I would substitute Snowbasin. Bigger, a LOT more terrain that's groomed out, MUCH better lifts, not many people, etc.

Again, I like Solitue, but I think it has a very dumb lift system - they just put in a new lift that goes about 200 yards beside the old one - go figure. The other liftson the left side to get to the rest of the terrain are old and slow. The far right has (I think) the oldest high speed in NA, and while it's fine, how many times do you want to do the same terrain?

Snowbasins lifts are virtually all new (2 gondolas, a tram and another high speed), and the food, lodges and yes, the bathrooms, are lengedary for being first class.

The only benefit to Solitude is that it's closer to SLC, otherwise Snowbasin would be a better choice.
post #40 of 43
I really like Snowbasin, but a day at Solitude is a pretty nice experience. If you catch it right (like after a decent storm) you can ski untracked longer than most places. Also, I think the village with the totally uncrowded hassle free vibe is nice. The Creekside cafe is one of the best slopeside dining experiences there is. But I really like a good lunch. 
post #41 of 43

Thanks.  My one problem with Snowbasin is that I like slopeside lodging. 

post #42 of 43
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Thanks.  My one problem with Snowbasin is that I like slopeside lodging. 


The Lakeside condos are the closest lodging to Snowbasin, about 9 miles, or 10 minutes to the mountain.
JF 
post #43 of 43
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I'm with my family  which consists  of 2 adults returning from ACL injuries looking for groomers, 2 kids one that is in ski school and sticks to easy groomers. And the other kid who skis backcountry and extreme terrain. What is the best place in Utah to fit these needs. I was thinking Park City for 4 days and Snowbasin for 2. Or Park City for 2 Deer Valley for 2 and Snowbasin for 2. Or Park CIty for 4 Snowbasin for 1 and The Canyons for 1. Any Ideas?
skibeast6, lots of great replies to your question. I will note one thing. Are you skiing 6 straight days? If you are and there are some of you are coming off acl injuries that will be quite a lot of skiing. I would recommend Snowbasin 1st as Bob Peters I believe did. My reason is that it is a big mountain , there is so much to explore there and they have very long top to bottom runs. IF you have already skied 3 or 4 days straight your legs could very well be shot. Trying to ski Snowbasin like that would not be much fun. It has a much longer sustained vertical than many of the other places. You want fresh legs even if you are on groomer / cruises. The person who wants extreme terrain will find plenty there especially off the John Paul lift.
The past 2 years I have gone out to Utah in 08 I spent 3 weeks out there and only went to Snowbasin 1 time, 09 1 week went just once again. Both times they were at the tail end of my trip and I wished I had spent more time there. Yeah there is no on  slope lodging but if you get up early enough ( we left Sandy at around 7:30am) and get front row it is like 6 steps up a staircase and 30 yards walk to the lifts.Get on the lifts and go. Have a great trip.
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