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K2 Obsethed 189

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
X-Racer, 185cm, 85kilo.

Skied the K2 Obsethed mounted all the way back for most of last year (probably 40 days on these skis). 
First run:
- absolutely hated the ski.  It had no snap, no feedback and was hard to turn.  The forrest run made me feel like a complete beginner.

After a couple of runs:
- realized that the ski "hasn't got a tail", so it needs to be skied from the tip.  GS turns in the slope worked as long as I was super aggressive.  Offpiste was nice as long as I controlled the ski from the tip.

End report:
I had a love/hate relationship with the ski.  It skied quite well in slopes if I put a lot of energy into it, and kept the weight forward.  "Tail-kicks" does not work at all - it only makes the tail twist.  I had to ski the Obsethed much more aggressively than how I ski GS race skis or skis like coomba, xxl or el hombre - which surprises me as everybody says the ski is so playfull.
In slopes or on hard off piste the ski has to rolled quickly onto the edge, and it works quite well...but will fold if put under pressure.

I loved the ski doing high-speed turny off-piste gs-tuns, and the way the soft tail dampend tail-landings. 
I mostly used the ski in Norway and the alps.  I liked it the best in wide open medium steep medium-soft off-piste.

In the end I sold it and bought Black Crows Corvus (196,5cm).  Hope the stiffer tail will suite my technique better, but haven't tried it yet.
post #2 of 14
Did you ever consider that the mount may have been too far back?  A more forward mount may have given you enough more tail that it would have held up under pressure. 
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Yes, I considered it - and I totally agree with you.  It would probably help, but I haven't tried it.  The mount was what I got recommended as a "freeride-mount"...  I think the ski was designed for a more forward-oriented mount.
I might add that the ski had enough float for the conditions and speed I tried it in.  That might have been different had the mount been different.

That I sold the ski, was mostly due to the fact that I wanted to try out a new ski this season - but had it been perfect I would have sold one of the other pairs I have. (I have 4 pairs, which is also a self imposed limit)
post #4 of 14

Sounds like you had trouble finding a good balance point on those skis. Moving the mount point might have helped. But it really seems liek you want a ski with a longer effecitve edge and a flat tail. Maybe you just don't like rockered skis.


Edited by tromano - 10/26/09 at 9:38am
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
The balance point was problematic.  As I said: I had a love/hate relationship with these skis.  There were absolutely things I loved about them, like the float, and the insensitivity to crap snow when in speed.

The thought that I don't like rockered skis also struck me. For a touring ski I bought the non-rockered Coomba in may, instead of the coomback...because I wanted a ski that is dependable in all conditions.  The coomba is not a love/hate ski: it is ok for everything except blasting. (It was also half price to the coomback,)
As an inbounds/backcountry ski I was looking at skis like ehp, kuro and pontoon....but ended up with Black Corvus (196,5).  That I ended up with a non-rockered ski was mostly by accident, and that I loved the springy feel the corvus had in the shop (haven't tried it yet). 
post #6 of 14
I've been researching the 2010s and will demo them next week, but here are some notes from Seth himself.
The '09s are different from the '10s. The hinged feel of the '09s has been changed a tad this year. Seth recommended that moving forward as much as +5 on them was his preference, the '10s a little less but no more than +3. The point, helps drive the tips, but most folks mount them at 0, especially the 179.....I'll be on 189s.
Your shop steered you wrong, go spank them.
You can check Seth's comments at Backcounty on the K2 Obsethed 2010 page.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by snowmachine View Post

Yes, I considered it - and I totally agree with you.  It would probably help, but I haven't tried it.  The mount was what I got recommended as a "freeride-mount"...  I think the ski was designed for a more forward-oriented mount.
I might add that the ski had enough float for the conditions and speed I tried it in.  That might have been different had the mount been different.

I agree too.  I had a pair last year mounted on "Traditional Line" and they were lifeless.  I sold them after a few days.  I think the "recommended" line is the base line.  + 3 to + 5 probably would make it a totally  (for the better) different ride.
post #8 of 14
Review of 2010 obSethed 179. Not a hijacking!

Just got back from Vail, and while I had planned to demo a pair of these I decided to stay with my new Mojo 94s while my best bud demoed a pair.

Buzz's Ski Shop mounted these at +2. My bud is 185 lbs and 6' even, and a 8.0 skier, skis fast, but not technical.
Other than the tip and tail wobble and the wandering on flat, pack run-outs, they did everything well.
We skied a mess-o trees, and even on our last day he was fresh at 4PM. Also, these were his first fat skis or mid-fats for that matter.

Chet wants to get a pair, but he likes shiney, and a good deal.

My thoughts are this would be a fine ski for fresh and cut-up snow on the deeper side. Due to the fact that we were on the backside of the 30" Vail got last weekend and we had only 6-8" after that to call freshies, Buzz's said stay with your Mojos and do a test that way.

Buzz's is my new fave shop in town, performance demos for about $25 a day if you go for more than a couple of days. Schweet!
Others in our crew went there as well.
Edited by snokat - 2/1/10 at 3:01pm
post #9 of 14
How did you find out that 8.0 figure? Don't you think he might be 8.1 or may be even 8.12 if not 8.127863?
post #10 of 14
was this a review for Buzz's ski shop? 
post #11 of 14
Wouldn't someone who is an 8.0 be able to ski fast AND technical....any clown can ski fast. The number grades are so lame.
post #12 of 14
no real application off piste/trees/bc.  whole 'nother game
post #13 of 14
I just got my ObSETHed's mounted with Head (Tyrolia) bindings with the track plate so 1) my kids can try them (or Dad can try to get them back), and 2) so I can go +- on the mounting as desired depending on conditions.

So far two days at Whistler (one on the demos that made me buy a new pair), and 11-16 at SLC.

I haven't chuckled so hard since I first found the Dynastar feel many moons ago on a pair of Skicross 10's.
post #14 of 14
Yeah, I just tried to throw a # for his style. He is very upright, if that helps, almost standing straight up.
Interesting skis given our conditions. Not sure I like the floppy tips and tails, but everything has a price.
And lastly, a 'vailed' attempt at a plug? The price and service was as good as it gets, so maybe.

I would have replied earlier, but a had to delete my cookies, couldn't get on to post. Friggin' cookies!
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