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Finding a boot for a friend.

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,

I have a friend looking for new boots.  A few days ago he tried on my Tecnica Dragon 120's and found them to be very comfortable and wanted to buy a pair.  He obviosly realised that they are too expensive for him, which leaves him to find something similar to my dragons online or local shop.  Guess i'm asking what boot is the dragon based off of from the Tecnica line?  Is there another model that's very close?.  He doesn't care if it's a 2008 or 2009 model, just wants a good boot. 

His last boots were the Nordica GTS 8 and found them uncomfortable and painful.  Happens when you buy from sportchek.  He wants a stiffer boot, so around 100+ Flex

Thanx for all the help
post #2 of 9
i think your friend has already suffered enough,  maybe he could forget going out for a beer for a couple of weeks, live on bread and water if need be, but get to a good fitter and have boots fitted properly.... you say that he found the dragon very comfortable ..that would suggest that they may be too big as a boot which feels like that in the store will often feel like a bucket when it has been skied for a week or two

if a fitter has a last seasons boot which will work for him then they will be only too pleased to sell it to him, none of us like old stock on the shelves
post #3 of 9
"Ditto" what CEM said.

I will add that it is estimated that 90%of the skiers who have purchased boots have bought them 1--2 sizes to big---looking for that "comfortable boot right out of the box" fit.
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
I know he needs a bootfitter, i've told him he needs a boot fitter.  He can't afford a bootfiiter.  You just don't realise that not everyone can afford good boots at retail.  A 100+ flex boot is $400 and up, which he can't afford.  He can't even find any from last year because the only ones they have around here are lower end boots which are too soft and higher end boots, which are too much money.  Then there is the finding the right size with what they have left, which i know is very important.

He saves up all summer so he can get a season pass to a local hill and have fun in the mountains when i go.  I even "gave" him my gotamas, no charge so he could have more fun with me when i go off-piste, instead of trying to keep up with his old Atomics. 

My dragon 120 fit him like a glove and that's what he wants, which would be impossible for his price range if he wanted to go to a ski shop.  his ONLY alternative is to shop online for something that has a similar shell, yet not as stiff and cheaper from a year or 2 or maybe 3 years if he can.  Doesn't have to be perfect for him....he gets what he can take....

But thanks for not even considering to answer my question, really shows how much people are willing to help.  Guess if you don't have the money to afford the best equipment and expert advice, you shouldn't be skiing.
post #5 of 9
huhh,

the tone of your last sentence is not really in the spirit of the forum, two of us have tried to answer the question you asked with the views which we have, it is not a case of not being able to afford a boot fitter, the majority of general ski stores who have a fitter on staff do not charge extra, how much is too much........ if he spends $150-$200 on a boot for a couple of seasons back which is not close to being right then that is money down the drain, it will (or certainly could) cause him a lot of discomfort, pain or possibly injury.


I can certainly answer part of your original question but you will not want to hear what i am going to say... The dragon 120 is based on the dragon 120..the dragon last was a new last fron Tecnica, it replaced the diablo range but is a different shape, width, volume instep height etc etc. 

you summed up the problem really nicely when you said
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His last boots were the Nordica GTS 8 and found them uncomfortable and painful.  Happens when you buy from sportchek.  He wants a stiffer boot, so around 100+ Flex
 doing what you are proposing is no different.

if he wants to get it close as possible without the expense then he should read as much information in the wikis as he can, understand shell fitting, and how a boot should feel then start trying them on it will always be a gamble but the more information he has the less of a gamble it will be
post #6 of 9
so, just to be clear, the reason that you have not recieved a satisfactory answer to your question is there is no satisfactory answer.

what CEM said kinda puts a lid on it. The shape you seek, just came out last season, so you cannot get a 2 or 3 year old version. to find something that works he will have to go into a ski shop and have an experienced fitter work with the inventory that they have to find a 100 flex boot that properly fits your friends feet. it may take trying in a number of shops to find that gem. it is not a conspiracy, just a reality of the current market conditions.

why not give him your boot that he likes and we presume fit well, and then get yourself some new ones that you can afford.

jim
post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
Sorry if i sounded like a dick, just trying to find my friend a boot before the season starts....no fun skiing alone...

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I can certainly answer part of your original question but you will not want to hear what i am going to say... The dragon 120 is based on the dragon 120..the dragon last was a new last fron Tecnica, it replaced the diablo range but is a different shape, width, volume instep height etc etc. 
 


Thanx, that's all i wanted.
post #8 of 9
1)  most good boot fitting stores dont charge any more then a sportcheck to start with, but you DO get the service on top of that.  If you just bring in boots off the street, they charge for working on them.

2)   every store will have some old stock floating around, and on sale.   Ask about that.  

3)  pacesetters in Ed, usually is good.   Lou (on this stie) is in calgary, and I'm in banff.   Come see if one of us have something that is on sale, but more importantly FITS.  I have lots of last years boots for 30-50% off.  and again   FITTING is INCLUDED in that price.

4)  if you do buy online, there are some great deals.  BUT add shipping, taxes, duty, no fitting, no warranty help, no fitting etc.  sometimes that savings can be eaten up very fast if anything goes wrong.
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
I found a deal on some Dragon 100's,  They are the same, just not as stiff as my 120's. Thanx for the help....
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