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Questions re: Dynastar Huge Trouble) 185 vs. Line Mothership 185

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Seems like several people here have had the chance to ski both the Huge Troubles and the Motherships.

Both are pretty heavy fatties, but I thought it would be interesting to provoke some compare / contrasts comments.

I'm thinking of picking up one of these skis for the coming season.

Me: 35 yr. old, 5'11" - 180 lbs. strong, advanced / expert skier, mostly ski Santa Fe, Taos (west basin ridge), and Silverton, then get to SLC for about 10 days a year.

175 Dynastar Trouble - love these for bumps / park days in S.Fe when it hasn't snowed
179 Line Prophet 90 - all mountain hard pack
179 Line Prophet 100 - like these, but selling them as they just feel too short & too flappy at speed.

picked up for this season:
179 2008/9 K2 Kung Fujas - pretty light AT set up w/ Fritschi Freerides
185 Armada JJ  - I expect this, of course, to be a really fun ski for very soft days, but I'm not expecting them to work in much beyond that

So I'm thinking of picking up a fat ski that would handle variable conditions better than the JJ. (Perhaps the JJ will surprise me....), something that would be more stable when at the tops of steep chutes and in chop.

The relatively stiff tip and soft tail of the Huge Trouble sounds appealing. But the stability of the Motherships does too....

Should it be obvious that the Huge Trouble is significantly more forgiving than the Motherships?

Also, given their respective turn radius (HT's is larger than the Mothership) wondering about people's sense of which is easier / harder / more work to turn (think tight trees at Silverton / Taos.)

Appreciate your thoughts.
Edited by JFE24 - 10/23/09 at 6:32pm
post #2 of 6
No one to comment/compare these?
post #3 of 6
 get the Mo'Ships.

much more ski than the HT, thence less overlap with your other stuff.

Finally, just trim the quiv to Mothership,  JJ and Prophet 90 for hardpack/ice days and you will be good to go.
post #4 of 6
I own the HT and have skied the Mutha' in both sizes. While the 195 MS is notably more ski than the 185 HT, the the 185 vs 185 comparison is much closer. The flex patterns are opposite so the softer tip of the 185 MS can get deflected more than the HT. OTH, the stiffer back half of the MS makes the tail of the ski feel more stable at GS speeds in broken mixte salad conditions. Despite the bigger TR of the HT I find the two to be relatively comparable as far as manuverability in 3D snow. I'd be happy with either one and would ski either a heck of a lot more than a JJ.

post #5 of 6
I haven't skied the 195 in the Mothership, but common sense would say it is "more" ski than the HT, which only comes in 1 size (185). With that said, the Mothership and HT, as SJ noted, are more similar than different, provided you are talking 185cm.  I liked the slightly firmer tip of the HT (the ski is so wide that any retraction or down-unweighting will release the ski, regardless of the tip stiffness or softness) and the softer flex mid-body made it feel like a ski with a bit more sidecut than the rated specs, closer to the smaller radius of the Mothership.  Both felt plenty stable, and with similar float, and would probably work similarly. Either could be pretty much an everyday ski, provided you are skiing 6 or more inches of fresh or relatively new crud, and not many firm bumps.

Size-wise, you might be on the upper end of the HT.  I am quite a bit smaller than you and felt the 185cm HT was spot-on for my 150lbs and 5 foot 9 height.  If you need more ski, the 195 Mothership may be the ticket.  They should make the HT in a 190+ length too.     
post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Sierra Jim and Dawgcatching, both for these replies and for your earlier posts on the Huge Troubles. I ended up picking up a pair a few weeks ago, a decision based primarily on price. After the recent storms at Wolf Creek and Taos, it looks like I'll finally have a chance to break them out. Will certainly give my .02.

And, at least on paper, a stiffer tip and softer tail sounds more appealing to me than the soft tip / stiff tail of the Moship. And yes, dawgcatching, we'll see about that 185 length.....

Thanks again for the comments.
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