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How to cure burning quads

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Thread Starter 
If we didn't have skis behind the heel piece of the binding, would people's quads rejoice and sing hallelujah?

Why buy the real estate in front of the toe piece if you have no use for it?

Okay, enough sarcasm: how can something that is so dysfunctional be such a popular technique, especially for powder? It is excruciating to watch the sheer effort and willpower it takes to bring the skis around through this method. I would think the person would have enough exercise for an entire winter.
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I relax in the hot tub with a cold beverage!
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awww, c'mon nb...

the heel thrusters look GOOD while doing that hula-hoop mambo!

Jim W does this funny little thing where he stands on flat skis and does little twisters while heading downhill on a fair pitch. It's very funny to watch. I can do it on gentler pitches, but he seems able to do it anywhere.

He likes to tease me about my old hop-turn method that I had when first skiing with him. He said I would throw my butt & hips up and around to work the ski into the circle. When he shows me what it looked like, I laugh like crazy!

Who needs a powerful tail when it's only there to spray snow on your snowboarding friends?
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Jim W does this funny little thing where he stands on flat skis and does little twisters while heading downhill on a fair pitch. It's very funny to watch. I can do it on gentler pitches, but he seems able to do it anywhere.

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That's what makes for a great skier. It's the ones that do everything so effortlessly.

I watched the D-Teamers and the Ed Staff (while I was in Killington) ski all those exercises like one leg skiing hockey slides, wiggles, etc in crud, bumps, ice whatever they were on. It was like they were on groomed flat runs.

Sigh,.. Some day...
post #5 of 8
Thread Starter 
We should have some sympathy, because powder is a reality check for the tail riders of the world. Still, denial is strong. The really good tail riders just straight run: ride 'em cowboy! It's a sight that stops chairlift conversations cold.

Nothing separates the crowd like a foot of pow on top of 3 feet of pow. You'd think we'd get more people in for privates, but we don't. Why?

My theory: they think they're doing what the good ones are doing, only perhaps not quite so well. I hear it attributed to "not being in shape."
post #6 of 8
Nolo,
What's interesting is that some instructors are still teaching that very technique in heavy snow. I've watched as an advanced powder/crud clinic went out and the instructor started by telling people they "must" completely unweight their skis to "lift them" out of the snow so they could turn them. :
I understand the technique should be in everyone's "bag of tricks" but it sure is a lot of work to keep it up.
post #7 of 8
dchan,

Jim W was on the demo team back in the day, and he is fully capable of making all conditions look like a blue groomer. it's an amazing sight, a 63-yr-old man putting the rest of the mountain to shame. he'll say "I'm slowing down, I can't ski the bumps like I used to" -- and granted he isn't doing the Weinbrecht -- but he is fast, smooth and flowing. phenomenal.

hey, I thought we had to leap clear out of the snow to turn in powder!?! we don't?

bwaaah hah hah hah
post #8 of 8
Thread Starter 
It's pretty hard to unweight the skis when you're on your heels. What we see is "sound and fury signifying nothing," as the torso bobs up and down to little effect between the skis and the snow. The skis turn through the hip-to-heel thrust that was perfected on the groomed. "Powder technique" is to add moving the torso vigorously up and down to the repertoire.

This is the trouble with visual learning: the eye can make crucial mistakes, such as seeing the powder skier's stance as "sitting back" when this is merely an illusion created by the buildup of snow against the front of the boots, and mistaking the up and down movement of the body for the pumping action of the legs.

Oh, well. We can't help those who don't ask us.

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