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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
Really don't know what to say about the new wave of adverts...

Winter is coming quick and more people are coming back to the forums, is this the way they want to be greeted?





With all respect to nolo and the crew, I know this wasn't the original intention of the new site direction. Is the site just getting hit with these ads because they are lumped into a campaign? I'm assuming that the ad suppliers have been told no pop-ups, and it seems like the team is being very responsive to member input and trying t get rid of these right away (see the safecountry survery thread). Can epicski take any action against the ad supplier to ensure that this stops?
Edited by krp8128 - 10/13/09 at 5:00am
post #2 of 15
I've got to agree.  I've been forced to re-enable my add blocker for EpicSki due to the obnoxious adds that have been appearing.  Please let me know when they have been eliminated and I'll be glad to disable the add blocker so that EpicSki can get some revenue from (less-obnoxious) adds.
post #3 of 15
 Hey, sorry about this guys.  Looks like Nike and Oakley, in particular, are running campaigns with pop-overs right now.  I will work to get them disabled.
post #4 of 15
Using OpenDNS for my DNS servers, I can use IE, Firefox, Chrome, whatever and get this:

Sibby's Ad-Free Home Page
post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
sibhusky,

I guess that's fine for those of us who are "in the know" (been around for a while).

What about the people who stumble across the site via a Google search, and are bombarded with popups. Personally, when i am in a situation like that I write the site of as a PITA and rarely go back.
post #6 of 15
I have to agree with that. 

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Originally Posted by krp8128 View Post

sibhusky,

I guess that's fine for those of us who are "in the know" (been around for a while).

What about the people who stumble across the site via a Google search, and are bombarded with popups. Personally, when i am in a situation like that I write the site of as a PITA and rarely go back.
post #7 of 15
I have to agree with all the above.  I have been bombarded with the Oakley ad below.  Adam Farren is the Huddler guy in charge of the ads and can get them turned off.  It would help if you would allow the ads on EpicSki (its essentially all the revenue right now to keep the site on), and report obtrusive ads by PM to adamferren.   I saw the Safecount Survey ad a minute ago.  It floats over the top of the screen.    He is working to shut this one down now.  Click on it for a real appreciation of obnoxious.

post #8 of 15
 Very sorry about these obtrusive ads!  Sibhusky, turning off ads entirely is certainly your prerogative but as Tom says we would appreciate you keeping them enabled...ESPECIALLY because our most active/loyal users are the ones most likely to see and report these obnoxious ads and if you're not seeing them, you won't be able to do so!

As you said, krp8128, the last thing we want is a new person coming to Epic via Google search and writing us off because of advertising...and so much of our traffic comes from search engines these days that this is a very real concern.

Thanks again for your patience and assistance with this.
post #9 of 15
Yeah, well, this impacts me not only on this site, but on any site I go to.  By turning off these adservers I save myself all this aggravation on the internet in general. 

By the way, I don't look at TV ads, either, or newspaper ads. I'm always having conversations with people talking with people about ads and they can't believe that the only ads I recognize are the Geico ones with the gecko. I'm like the great "no ads" person.  I can hardly READ "Skiing" magazine because my eyes can't differentiate between the ads and the articles. 
post #10 of 15
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 Very sorry about these obtrusive ads!  Sibhusky, turning off ads entirely is certainly your prerogative but as Tom says we would appreciate you keeping them enabled...ESPECIALLY because our most active/loyal users are the ones most likely to see and report these obnoxious ads and if you're not seeing them, you won't be able to do so!

As you said, krp8128, the last thing we want is a new person coming to Epic via Google search and writing us off because of advertising...and so much of our traffic comes from search engines these days that this is a very real concern.

Thanks again for your patience and assistance with this.

Adam,

Of late, the ads have been very sluggish to load (several seconds per page) from my work location in one of the world's largest computer science research centers.  Over the weekend, I was trying to view epic over a shaky wireless connection in a hotel.    In the hotel it often took over a minute to see a page.  I know you have limited control over the ad auctions, but would it be possible to reorder the flow so that the page content is fetched earlier?

I can't use opendns because of its T&C, but I confess that over the weekend I was mucking with the network configuration in the hotel room to try to kill the ads.  If the non-ad content had been served earlier in the process, I wouldn't have taken that step.  btw, I'm letting the ads in again now.
post #11 of 15
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  I know you have limited control over the ad auctions, but would it be possible to reorder the flow so that the page content is fetched earlier?

Yes - this is a priority and unfortunately a really difficult thing for us to control. Ad networks are notoriously bad w/ performance issues and also pretty much a closed book for developers which makes it hard to work with them.

BUT I've got a former colleague who's building a technology to do this much more effectively that I think will positively impact performance...I'm optimistic that we can improve things quite a bit working with him.
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Yes - this is a priority and unfortunately a really difficult thing for us to control. Ad networks are notoriously bad w/ performance issues and also pretty much a closed book for developers which makes it hard to work with them.

BUT I've got a former colleague who's building a technology to do this much more effectively that I think will positively impact performance...I'm optimistic that we can improve things quite a bit working with him.
 


Any time line to get this taken care of?

I just clicked on the "Home" page, realized it would take a while and decided to go to the bathroom and get a drink. It still wasn't up.


I'm new to the whole Industry Rep/Sponsor thing, and won't hide the deal that Nolo offered me to get here, but after seeing the new costs that are going to come into play soon and the poor performance of the site I'm questioning it's worth.
post #13 of 15
At least the pop-over ad that was attacking me seems to be gone.   I am seeing a lot more relevant content from skiing related advertising.
post #14 of 15
THANK YOU! 
post #15 of 15
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 Any time line to get this taken care of?

We should be up and running with a new provider by end of November, I think...depends on their engineering timeline more than ours.
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