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Long Radius?

post #1 of 11
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From a review in a current ski magazine, under the "BEST IN" heading,  "Stability, Long Radius".  The above in a review for a ski with a 14.4 m radius (118-66-102) ski.

If your tipping that ski on an angle and carving a turn, your not making what I would consider to be a long radius turn.

Does the term "long radius" have any meaning to ski reviewers, and ski magazine writers anymore?  If so what is it?
post #2 of 11
sounds like skiing or ski magazine.... do you really expect somebody who's writing a review for one of those magazines to have any clue about what they're talking about??

a ski with a 66 mm waist and a 14.4 m radius belongs in the "unusable" category.
post #3 of 11


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Originally Posted by jahroy View Post


sounds like skiing or ski magazine.... do you really expect somebody who's writing a review for one of those magazines to have any clue about what they're talking about??

a ski with a 66 mm waist and a 14.4 m radius belongs in the "unusable" category.


 
post #4 of 11
I have a ski in a 155 with a 122-66-102.........radius 9 meters......

But back on topic.........14.4 is medium radius at best most SL skis are 12-14 meters for radius.
post #5 of 11
I wouldn't count 14m as long radius :) For me, that would be quite short radius. My GS skis have 27m radius, so if 14m would be long, 27m would be what? Extreme long? And 30+m radius of SG and DH skis would be what? Straight skis? :)
As far as unusable category comment goes, laughing is pretty much only "reply" that comes to my mind at the moment ;)
post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by jahroy View Post



a ski with a 66 mm waist and a 14.4 m radius belongs in the "unusable" category.


 

Maybe for a person who cannot think outside their own skiing world. 
post #7 of 11
You're completely correct (IMHO) that a ski with a 14.4m sidecut won't be particularly good at long radius turns, unless one redefines "long" to mean something different (like "short").

Then again ... "best" (or even "BEST") is a relative term. A 14.4m ski might well turn out to be the best for long-radius turns if you compared it to a group of skis with 12m sidecut radiuses.
post #8 of 11
I believe what they are eluding to is as SJ sort of said realtively speaking to skis in the category it is best at long radius turns.

In other words if you take a 14.4 M skis and bend the bejeebers out of it with high edge angle it is going to make a smaller arc then it's 14.4 M. so I assume what they are saying is if you make turns that are just the natual sidecut shape of the ski or maybe not 100% carved turns, this ski was the best of that bunch at that.

And yes you can make relatively long radius turns on a 14.4 M ski. 100% carved , no.

They are certinaly not sayin that a 14.4 M ski makes the same long radius turns as a 27M Gs ski. give them some credit, most of those folks are better damn good skiers. 

 Mr. Jahroy knows not what he says. Is the Head Supershape not one of the most universally enjoyed ski by many skiers on this forum and tauted as extremely versatile, having received numerous rave reviews? (I have not skied on the Supershape)  12M radius/66mm waist.  By the way the waist dimensions is unimportant in this context. This obviously is not a Powder ski comparison
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by jahroy View Post


sounds like skiing or ski magazine.... do you really expect somebody who's writing a review for one of those magazines to have any clue about what they're talking about??

Most magazine testers will belittle 99.9% of the posters on this forum!
 
post #10 of 11
This is a great example of the ski b***s that goes on at a lot of forums. My cure for all this is a contest: (a powder bump contest ideally)The first 2-3 runs on the contestants ski of choice, the second 2-3 runs on the contestanc's choice of a ski mass produced (min. 10,000 pairs) from 1980-1983. The winner is the one who has the closest, identical, sustained line on both types of skies
Edited by Altaman - 10/15/09 at 7:02pm
post #11 of 11
That would be reasonable on packed powder snow, especially if you had skied the 80's model in its day.
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