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post #1 of 71
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I'm looking for a new twin tip all mountain ski for this season.  I was wondering if anyone had any advice as to what i should get.

I've had a pair of Elan twin tips for the last tow years, but only recently found out that they are mainly for park/pipe, which i dont do at all.  I prefer the deep stuff, trees, and natural terrain over a terrain park.  Ive had terrible luck with the top sheet chipping and the ski itself chipping throughout the season, which is kinda annoying.

I'm 6' 4" and weigh 172 lbs but am pretty agile for my height and love to ski fast and over varying terrain.  I can ski just about everything and i have been on skis since i was four so im pretty comfortable with riding.  I need a ski that can go from groomers to crud to waist deep fluff in an instant. 

Any ideas of what i should get would be really helpful!  Thanks!
post #2 of 71
To entirely avoid the chipping problem, I recommend stainless steel capped skis. Any pair of Colorado born Volant Chubbs, which are still in good shape, are the best all around skis ever made.

It's a natural born fact.




Oh, and I just happen to have some for sale too, how fortunate for you!
post #3 of 71
This was a double post, but now since I can't just delete it, I will go on to say that I was wrong, that just because steel skis are entirely immune to chipping, and because they ski smoother than a baby's bottom, doesn't mean they can fulfill the needs of one who wants his skis to have twin tips for no stated reason.
post #4 of 71
I would look into the K2 Extreme and the Volkl Bridge.
post #5 of 71
 Icelantic Nomads are sweet.
post #6 of 71
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post

This was a double post, but now since I can't just delete it, I will go on to say that I was wrong, that just because steel skis are entirely immune to chipping, and because they ski smoother than a baby's bottom, doesn't mean they can fulfill the needs of one who wants his skis to have twin tips for no stated reason.
Twins are sweet even if you rarely go switch simply cause the rooster tail they kick up hits people behind you in the face
Edited by crgildart - 10/7/09 at 8:34am
post #7 of 71
Why do you need it to be a twin tip if you don't do any park stuff? Do you ski switch at all?
post #8 of 71
I would just like to throw in my 2 cents on the twin tip thing..

- Rooster tails are sweet, I love ripping by buddies and blasting them in the face.
- Twin tips can be help full in narrow chutes or anytime you need to "sideslip" down a face

I'm not experienced on that many different models/types of skis but do twin tips really loss that much pop or snap out of a turn compared to a flat tail? I would like to know peoples opinion on this.

To the O.P - Check out the following, I recommend some personally, the others I have heard good things and they seem to be popular. They should fit the bill for a solid all-mountain ski.

- Kastle MX88
-Volkl AC50
Kastle MX98
Line Prophet 90/100
Nordica Enforcer
Volkl Mantra

Of these only the Prophet is a twin tip. Have fun.
post #9 of 71
The Bizzard Magnum 8.7 IQ Max is awesome a real amazing all-mountain....wide enough for float solid edge on the groomed, blasts through crud.....Gold Medalist this year from ski...tried @ Whistler last spring!
post #10 of 71
Volkl Bridge is a really quick skis. Great for skiing in the trees.

Search all mountain twin tips. There have been a lot of threads on this topic.

Good luck!
post #11 of 71
Scott Punisher, Line Prophet 90 and Head Mojo 94 (if you can find a left over from 08/09).

If you are having chipping problems that are above and beyond what other people have, and not just isolated to one pair of skis (with questionable quality top-sheet) may be a sign that you need to widen your stance. Seriously.
post #12 of 71
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Originally Posted by tmay11 View Post

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- Twin tips can be help full in narrow chutes or anytime you need to "sideslip" down a face

 
So they are helpful in gaping down terrain that one doesn't have the skills to ski?

Newsflash! Side slipping existed long before twin tips were ever a thought.
post #13 of 71
Dynastar Bigs. 92 in the waist, very stiff for a twin tip, GREAT in the crud. Also, if you can find a video on YouTube from the movie Realtime by Level 1 productions, you can see them being used in the deepest powder I have probably ever seen in a ski movie. Granted, those are pros using them and not us bums. Definitely check em out though.
post #14 of 71
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post



So they are helpful in gaping down terrain that one doesn't have the skills to ski?

Newsflash! Side slipping existed long before twin tips were ever a thought.
 
Well, ya, but they are much better for side-slipping switch
post #15 of 71
I think we should start calling them by their original name - goon skis.
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post



Well, ya, but they are much better for side-slipping switch
 
post #16 of 71
Ive been skiing the gotama lineup for awhile now, and to me there is no other ski this gets the job done all over the mountain.
post #17 of 71
Yes lets hear it for the Gotoma.  I have the brown busters from 08 and skin up the wild ridges in Alaska and ski through waist deep thick powder, Alyeska hard pack, and Alta fluff with a big smile on my face all the way.  I will take the plunge this winter and add this years model to my quiver to enjoy the true angel pow at Alta .
post #18 of 71
I think twin tips are helpful for... wait for it... skiing backwards. No, seriously. Sometimes you're stuck somewhere, you just want to slide over to a different spot. I find myself just backing up on my twin tips where I might do a kick turn on trad skis. Not that I'd buy a ski just for that...

Oh, and they suck for attaching skins, sticking in the snow, loading into gondola racks, using as brakes in deep powder and cool guides in La Grave and Jackson Hole cut the tails off their twins, yes, yes, I know.
post #19 of 71
2nd the recomindation for the Prophet 90 or 100, and the Gotama (old version, I think the new would be too powder specific)
post #20 of 71

I'm currently looking for a new all-mountain ski because i am going out west with a buddy this winter. I started skiing since i could walk basically and then began doing both skiing and snowboarding when i was like 11 or 12 and then quit skiing all together for a while because i was amazing at skiing and not at snowboarding and was still growing so i decided to snowboard...now i would like to do both because i love to ski as well and im done growing. i would consider myself an advanced skier and i like to ride everywhere and anywhere(especially where im not supposed to be). I also like to go fast but be able to be playful and do tricks in the thick stuff...i was seriously considering either the Armada ARVs or Line Blend skis but im also not sure on sizing. I'm 5'10 and weigh 170 lbs....im not fat im just real athletic and pretty damn aggressive

 

any imput would be very helpful

post #21 of 71

I'd look into b2r Dice if I were you I have'nt gotten them yet so don't completely go off of my opinion but from what I can tell they are nice skis etc handmade but very expensive though

post #22 of 71

You've gotten some great suggestions from the forum: Mantras, Enforcers, AC50's.  I've skied or own these and they are excellent.  The Blizzard Magnum also comes highly recommended by a friend who is a level 3 instructor - but the Volant Chubbs as an all mountain ski?  You've got to be kidding me, unless they have an all new model out there I don't know about.

post #23 of 71

I have been skiing Icelantic Nomads for a couple of seasons now.  Love the response they give me in all conditions.

I would recommend these above a lot of others.  They are soft enough in the tips and tails to be somewhat forgiving but still stiff enough through the middle to hold a nice turn at some speed.  

post #24 of 71

dude, i did a demo on the head john's, and they are a 105 underfoot, big enough for pow, yet perfect for any weight, superlight and durable, and super responsive. an all around great ski. i ski'd in moguls, trees, powder, park, pipe, they can do it all. (pipe is difficult though because they are a little bit of a softer ski), and they have sweet pop. go with the johns. i have ridden alot of skis and this is by far the unexpected winner.

post #25 of 71

Lots of good choices, but wait...groomers to crud to waist deep fluff in an instant?  Where are you skiing?

 

I do have to add a vote for the Icelantic Nomad (for you the 181). Very good in the crud and waist deep fluff, pretty good on the groomers. They are very well made here in the USA.

post #26 of 71
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Originally Posted by jford View Post

I'm currently looking for a new all-mountain ski because i am going out west with a buddy this winter. I started skiing since i could walk basically and then began doing both skiing and snowboarding when i was like 11 or 12 and then quit skiing all together for a while because i was amazing at skiing and not at snowboarding and was still growing so i decided to snowboard...now i would like to do both because i love to ski as well and im done growing. i would consider myself an advanced skier and i like to ride everywhere and anywhere(especially where im not supposed to be). I also like to go fast but be able to be playful and do tricks in the thick stuff...i was seriously considering either the Armada ARVs or Line Blend skis but im also not sure on sizing. I'm 5'10 and weigh 170 lbs....im not fat im just real athletic and pretty damn aggressive

 

any imput would be very helpful

==

Well any of the ski's mentioned on this thread will be great, but I have to throw a few points onto Volkl,  you are about my size and I ski super aggressive, I love the Volkl =AC30 , Mantra, Gotama and really want to try the Bridge,,,,,  And I seriously didn't plan it that way, for whatever reason I just felt like those ski's were made for people like me, (or maybe everyone feels that way on them). I demoed all of them several times along with other skis over a 4 day trip and they were my favorites,,, My hat is off to Volkl.   I would say,  try the Bridge and mantra for sure.....  try a 177  or bigger... 

post #27 of 71

My go to twin tip is the Line Prophet 100. 2009/2010 model. I live and ski out west and this ski is a great do anything ski. When we get those nice groomer days I bring out the Volkl AC30 2009/2010 model.

post #28 of 71

For a ski that can float in powder,  power through crud, and carve on the groomer, check out Icelantic's Shaman or Nomad.  They're amazing skis in all conditions. 

post #29 of 71

Well, I am suprised at the amount of good advice that you have gotten (other then the Volant Chubbs).  I too would say look hard at Icelantic Nomads or pre-2010 Volkl Gotamas.  If you like the Gotamas but find them pricey, you should look at Liberty Helix.  Practically the same ski, but usually cheaper.  If you want the BEST all mountain twin, my current vote would have to go to the DPS Wailer 95.  Absolutely amazing skis, and way lighter than anything else that has been mentioned.

post #30 of 71

I just picked up the line Prophet 90s, as I've heard nothing but good things.

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