Tom B said:
|STOP GETTING LESSONS FROM OUTDATED INSTRUCTORS WHO THINK THAT SKIS SHOULD BE TURNED BY THE UPPER BODY. Sorry I had to say that out loud.
Seriously, I think Pierre is right on the money with his comment. RR tracks with a strong rotation of the upper body into the new turn is about as ridiculous as it gets.
Although I think turning the skis through rotation of the upper body is inefficient, I will not argue with some of the merits. If you look at it from the purely philosophical point of view on skier returns and our instant gratification society, rotation doesn't make for poor judgement. It funny that the American society is viewed as the most instant gratification society on earth yet our ski instruction is based on efficient science rather than instant gratification. Its apparent to me that US ski instructors are much more obsessed with efficiency and lack of rotation than many other teaching philosophies.
What do I mean. I will say that through the approach of railroad track turns and upper body rotation, I could get newbies to the level of terminal advanced/upper intermediate more CONSISTENTLY than non rotational approaches. At least the golf club swing is a go movement and not a braking movement.
I takes more miles to get a newbie to ski efficient movements than it takes to get a newbie to learn go type rotation. I could make a dandy argument for rotation teaching to achieve higher never ever return rates and I think that Lrtalk bears some of this out. This is after all, what the Japanese are finding out.
Good efficient movements must be taught and there is simply not enough time in the first few lessons to make anything permanent. With the lack of continued lessons or coaching, defensive movements creep in. At least the golf swing and positive upper body rotation into the turn is very natural and is a transfer function for most, instead of a new movement that takes commitment to put into muscle memory. I could further the argument for correcting inefficiencies later.
If this sounds odd coming from me, I am no longer sure of any philosopy of instruction. I think they all have some merit given the wide variety of people and snow conditions found worldwide.
In answer to Kneale's comment:
|Doesn't a golf club swing begin with the hips moving toward where the ball is going to go (at least hopefully). I think it's hip movement the exercise with the poles emphasizes rather than torso twisting
If demonstrated right, the golf swing does both. The hips move forward in anticipation of controlling the upper body rotation in the swing. In golf there is friction underfoot so the power is delivered to the ball. In skiing there is little friction underfoot and the golf swing could just as easily result in the hips moving back. Some speed would lend inertia to the rescue. Lrtalk bore this out with his explanation of speed. The golf swing from uphill would very likely move the hips forward then the rotation would flatten the skis, provide movement of the center of mass into the direction of the new turn and turn the skis towards the fall line. Beats pivoting and z turns as far as I am concerned.
Once the skier is comfortable with going into the turn, what would intrigue me is to have the student swing the club from the downhill side (softly) to initiate the turn. This would stop the rotation, square up the skis and put the skier in a good position to invert the new inside ski and begin angulation from the hips. Swinging both ways might just end up in the middle at the end of the day. [img]smile.gif[/img]