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Knee problem have an impact on boot choice? Flex, height etc...

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Thread Starter 

Just wanted to get some feedback re what boot characteristics I should consider given a long standing knee problem:

Following an accident (binding didn't release on a poorly executed landing) 5 years ago, and a botched ACL repair, I cannot squat below parallel, and am slightly paranoid about my knee still even though it has stood up to 4 seasons of AT/ backcountry skiing. (I admit the problem is probably more in my head than in my knee these days!).

I'm looking for some alpine boots, and wondering if these will be worse on my knee/ more dangerous for me than the softer, less angled and lower cut AT boots (Dynafit Zzero 4) I currently use?

So what I'm asking is:

Should I look at softer flexing alpine boots, or should I actually get well set up stiff ones (I get the feeling that there are 2 schools of thought on this looking at other threads).

Should I look at lower cut boots? What about the angle of the boot, does it vary much between boots, and which type of angle to go for? (Again the AT fairly upright angle seems to work well off-piste).

Any boot & binding combo that are particularly good or bad for dodgy knees? (Do the latest alpine boots with small vibram soles release as well as traditional set-ups?)

I'm already avoiding carving skis because of the paranoia, and anyway my ski tastes are for off-piste powder, crud, bumps, snowpark etc on an all-mountain mid-fat ski, but enjoy speed when on the pistes. I weigh 180lbs and guess i'm an advanced level skier (usually stick to off-piste or black runs, & handle most conditions comfortably, if not with beautiful technique!).

So overall looking for an alpine boot (this is to use alongside not instead of my AT boots) that is a good compromise between good for my knee, good off piste, and good on piste...easy, right!?

Thanks advance for the advice


PS Don't know if this will have an impact on the answers to the above questions, but i have bulky calves (when i'm not on skis i'm on a bike) which I guess will alter the amount of movement etc that I can have when in a ski boot.
Edited by Chrislw - 10/6/09 at 8:02am
post #2 of 6
This is a difficult question to answer given that we cannot see your feet and their shape.   But in my opinion the question you ask about boots isn't as relevant as determining the boot, ski binding setup that will put you in a powerful balanced position so that you are more likely to avoid being in the position that probably caused you ACL rupture to begin with.  Typically this is a sitting back, lowered hip and rotated position.

I would pay attention to binding delta and binding on ski position as ways to possibly improve stance and get a more responsive ski that doesn't require as much muscle to turn.  There are plenty of articles on this site by me, Bud and others to help.  My website has information as does Buds.   (www.lous.ca)

post #3 of 6
Probably a more upright stance is best.  You can experiment.  As you've noticed most AT boots have a more upright cuff than traditional performance Alpine boots.  However, It is also necessary to pay attention to boot ramp, binding delta and binding position.

Release of standard AT boots in proper AT bindings seems to be reliable, but I have no way to say that it is as good as traditional alpine setup.  But if you ski backcountry what other setup is there unless you tele?

post #4 of 6
Thread Starter 
OK thanks for the advice Lou. I will go to a proper boot fitter here to sort it out, but just wanted to hear an educated opinion.
I will check out your site, thanks for the tip. I reckon you're right that a balanced, strong stance is a key thing to aim for, rather than worrying about boot flex etc. From my AT experience that probably means going for a slightly more upright boot. I was thinking something like the Lange Banshee but will sort it out at the shop.

Have to admit you lost me on the "binding delta"...what do you mean?

Also that is a good tip re getting a responsive ski....I was weighing up either the Dynastar Mythic Rider or new Sultan 85, but I've heard taht the MR can be a bit of a beast to steer, so you've made me lean more towards the S85.

I'll probably be using Diamir Freeride Pro bindings to allow a mix of skiing off lifts and some short AT outings.
Thanks again

post #5 of 6
Binding delta is discussed widely on this site in the Wikis and elsewhere.  You can also find references at www.lous.ca and at Bud's site as well.  But quickly binding delta is the angle created by the height differential of the bindings heel and toe.

post #6 of 6
hi i have to agree with Lou in setting up the best pssible stance and balance scenario.  I might also add that you should stay away from skis beyond 75 -80mm under foot as there will be a constant leverage factor above that width in a lateral direction as the skis tendancy will be to flatten out.  this can be counteracted with some binding lift which is somewhat counter to the thinking in those ski widths. a short gs ski might be a good choice.
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