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The Illusive short game

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
After knocking a drive within 100 yds of the pin on a par 4, it took three lame lob wedge 'duffs' to barely get onto the green. Damn embarrassing after a great drive. One thing I know is I need to keep the lob wedge in the bag until less than 20 or 30 yards and I need to be 'on' and not tired or distracted or I'm as likely to miss hit as have limited success. I checked out the chipping putters and started wondering if that was worth serious consideration (Thoughts?) or go back to using my sand wedge with variable back swings.

What are reliable short game techniques/drills/clubs/tricks?
(I'm really just venting, there's no hope for me to improve scoring and consistency.)
Edited by Alpinord - 9/30/09 at 2:26pm
post #2 of 13
I don't know. I think the sucess in my short game has always been my putting. But to help you out, and you need to practice this, I use a 7 or 8 iron around the green. depending on how much green you have to work with and how the ball is sitting, it works really well.

20 plus yards out, you still need the wedge though. And flop wedges and sand wedges are easy to blade if you don't get it right. Those chipper/putter utility clubs are worthless in my estimation. I've never seen anyone score well around the green with one. Save your money.
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yeah. Golf is not like riding a bike and does require practice. Thanks for eliminating the chipping putter equation. It's really down to the pilot with little practice time.

I did get the lob wedge mainly as for flop shots at a links course with steep sides of greens and started thinking I should be able to use it when inside a full swing on the sand wedge. Working on the bump and run more is a great reminder. I've had some success using a 6 at or near the fringe as a putter.

Pretty soon I won't have the option for this self abuse once the snow hits.....but I do have a late season itch to scratch a few more times.
post #4 of 13
Some things that work for me on full swing 60 shots:

First, this is the accuracy zone. You shouldn't be swinging hard. If you need to swing more than 80% use a longer club. Second, to get consistent distance with a 60 you've got to strike the ball on the descending part of the swing. You've got to have made a good weight shift before impact and not flipped your hands causing the club to bottom out early. To get a feel for what this feels like try hitting a few shots with the ball way back in your stance and little hand action. Once you get the feeling move the ball more forward but still shift your weight and lead with the hands. It'll come.
post #5 of 13
Tempo!  IMHO  most golfers with a weak short game try to swing the short iron too fast and too .  Know it is true for my game, swing slllooowwwerrrr.

Played today and that was my one and only swing thought around the greens and what a difference it made.  The bump and run 7 iron is still the secret weapon within 6-8 yards.
post #6 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks all. Great tips and reminders. I continually tell myself on the tee box to slow down the driver as well as approaching irons. I clearly need to remind myself close in. When I was playing more regularly I did have an OK short game, but it's been a while.....time to get up to the chipping green.
post #7 of 13
For me the secret was focusing on slow initiation of the downswing, whether it is the driver, wedge or putter.  For years I struggled to slow down my back swing but did not realize that I would then quickly pull the trigger and ever so slightly yank things out of line before I ever got the down swing started.  Start down (or forward for a putt) slow and on line and it's got to go straight.
post #8 of 13
There have been some very good thoughts expressed here.  I carry 4 wedges but only use the 60 degree in situations where it's the only club that will work or I'm feeling very confident (rare).  Around the greens I used to chip primarily with an 8 iron to get a low running shot but the last two years I've felt more comfortable delofting a sandwedge and throwing it at the hole with a little checkup.  A lot depends on the lie.

You're right - the season is winding down.  Time to be thinking of improving other pursuits.
post #9 of 13
7 iron. (force of habit from playing windy links courses)
In fact, the closer I am to the green, the more likely I am to use it. When you end up on or near the fringe and the grass is too heavy to putt, I'd take my 7, but play it more like a putter - very stiff arms, short back swing, straight follow through. You give the ball enough height to get over the nastier part of the lie, then it will run down to the hole.
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
I do feel much more confident with a 7 or 8 than the lob by far. As stated, I use the 6 like WTFH described. It's interesting to note that the aforementioned chipping putters are 37° which is somewhere in the range of a 7 or 8.

Mudfoot, if you are not more tempted to check out the peaking aspens, give a shout if you want to hook up at Hillcrest or Dalton.
post #11 of 13
Get the book Short Game Bible by Dave Pelz.

I've yet to master his 3 swing by 4 wedge swing system, but it does help. I've been working on chipping with my hybrid and chipping with the ball positioned behind my right foot for low runners.
post #12 of 13
A couple of thoughts for you:

1. A large percentage of the students I see when we are working on their short game break down the left wrist (RH golfers) at impact-why-they are trying to help the ball in the air. Just as at address where the grip needs to be in front of the clubhead you need to retain that relationship through the impact zone (and on your full swing too). A slight weight bias to the front side will help you hit down.

2. Except for the shortest of chips make sure you aren't just throwing your arms or hands at the ball. Even if it is very minimal rotation exists. Turn away, turn through-let the ball just get in the way of a good golf swing.

3. Learn to chip with a variety of clubs based on air time and roll distance.

4. Chippers are a waste of a needed club-you only are allowed 14
post #13 of 13
I really like Dav Pelz's short game bible also.  Very solid reading material.  it covers all non-putting aspects within 100 yards of the pin.   I personally think that shots from around the green are extremely important for higher handicap players because if you often miss hitting the green in regulation, then you need a brilliant chip in order to one putt and save par (occasionally).  If you can chip to within 6 feet of the pin, you will one putt often enough to improve your score.  

I use my PW, SW, GW and LW all from within 20 yards of the green, all depending on how much stuff I have to clear and how far I want the ball to roll across the green.  My favorite is my 52 degree Zoid GW, which just seems to often have the right balance of flight and roll.  

You also have to practice all the weird situations you will find yourself in.  Sandtraps, uphill lies, downhill lies, sideways lies both up and down, thick grass.  Know ahead of time exactly what you will do in those situations and have practiced them until you have them dialed.

I actually think the short game is easier to master than the bio mechanics of a full swing.  But it does take some practice and note-taking until you have it.  Check out Pelz's book.

Also, dial in your long putts to go within 3-4 feet of the hole, and dial in sinking your 6-8 foot putts.  
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