Originally Posted by Rick
Again, people are falling into the right or wrong trap. One approach may be more efficient than another, but that doesn't necessarily distinquish it as more "right". Skiing is about free expression, and descending the mountain in a fashion that provides the biggest thrill/enjoyment/smile to that skier at that moment.
I love this quote. Sure skiing is just about free expression blah blah blah. So what are you teaching in a ski lesson then? If it is all good, there is no right or wrong, why should anyone waste their money and time? I have taught countless never ever lessons, where the class had a great time. So are they done? "Tai Chi Skier" looked like he was having a ball, would you take a lesson from him? Would you personally reccomend his lessons to friend or family member? If there is not right or wrong, what was that 3 year debate you had with M501 all about? Where you arguing that his way was not fun? That it wasn't free expression?
Many people enjoy the very aspect of learning. Some desire to become more efficient so they can ski better longer, Some love the feel of performance they get from carving...some love the control they get so they can ski in a relaxed manor, others use it so they can exploer more challenging terrain....this can only be achieved by showing somone the right way....which by definition means there is a wrong.
This whole "do what ever feels right" is really getting old...and really does not fit on a ski technique forum. In a "general skiing forum" , sure....knock youself out...."WHEEEE"....but please leave the tech forum for those who know.
FOR THE RECORD: There is right technique and wrong technique. The only thing that is up for grabs is how you apply it...that can be in endless ways and situations, that is the definition of an open skill sport after all. But dont think that all technique is good technique, and that technique cant be analysed and crituqed. It can....the real issue is the people doing the critiquing, espeically here, are usually looking at skiers that are well beyond their own skill level, and thus often make very wrong, and confused conclusions.
Originally Posted by Rick
About the falline to falline approach to smoothing out a transition; it definately can help, but it also throws shadow on the exectution details of what actually makes a transition look smooth, It's teaching one trick pony skills to riders who end up not really knowing how they're doing the trick. Focusing on the technicals of a transition will get the skier the same smoothness, while letting them know why it's happening, and how to vary it in the exact manner they desire to achieve the precise outcome they seek.
No Rick. Fall line to fall line is just a mental image. Of course you then discuss the details of transition. In fact the fall line to fall line approach allows you to talk about the transition as 1 thing in its entirty....this is different to the traditional "C" shape turns where transitions are discussed as a 2 step process....end one turn, start another.
To call it one trick pony is rather ironic becuase it gives you a whole different way of viewing it beyond the tradtional approach...you can still do all your OLR, ILE, cross under, cross over, mumbo jumbo within the fall line to fall line approach.
But I think you knew that. Getting bored Rick? Or are you more concerned how this advice will contrast with your latest DVD? Do I sense major editing in your future? Or do you just feel the need to create abit of a stir? I am happy to engage, but lets do it on something more technical....ya?Edited by Skidude72 - 9/27/09 at 3:25pm