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post #31 of 40
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I am currently using a 17m radius ski (Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous TI).  It is the shortest and tighest radius ski I have ever been on.  One of my focuses this summer is to get on a 9m to 11m radius ski to discover new sensations.  I have been told by a few people (including Rick Schnellmann) it would help me develop more.


Is that what you are saying TDK6?

post #32 of 40
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Sorry, I see now that those were medium radius turns on the video. But Im pritty sure that if you carve even tighter turns you would use the same movements. Note, carve. Not skidd. Not short turns as in down the fall line bump skiing short turns. My bad for not being more specific. In this posting I will refer to short turns as SL type carved turns on a r=11m ski.

If you turn short, medium and long radius turns on a SL ski its not the same as turning short radius turns on a SL ski, medium radius turns on a all mountain ski and long radius turns on a GS ski. Every ski has its sweet spot and you should be skiing close to that sweet spot if you want to use the ski to its full potential. You need to do a lot of work in order to get the ski turning properly. In a technical sence you will have to change your strategy for how to turn quicker. You will not have time extending into transition like you are doing in your demos in the videos. Im not ranting you or trying to find blanks in your technique just trying to give you some information you might benefit from. This information might be totally irrelevant for your psia certification.

newer stuff doesnt have a sweet spot......any turns work out pretty well.
post #33 of 40
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Originally Posted by Aareses View Post

I am currently using a 17m radius ski (Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous TI).  It is the shortest and tighest radius ski I have ever been on.  One of my focuses this summer is to get on a 9m to 11m radius ski to discover new sensations.  I have been told by a few people (including Rick Schnellmann) it would help me develop more.


Is that what you are saying TDK6?


Aareses,

I met you briefly at Sun Valley a few weeks ago, where you gave me the news of your LIII success.  Congratulations!  You are a testiment to what can happen with a positive attitude & focused coaching.  

I don't want to speak for tdk6, but I think that is what he is saying.  I do a clinic for out new instructors on 120cm, 9m skis at the beginning of the season each year.  For those with an open mind, they usually discover sensations they had never imagined.

On the other side of the coin, you should consider also getting on some bigger, fatter, funshape skis & start getting some mileage in the crud, bumps, steeps & powder.  You have developed some great base skills.  Now it's time to begin putting them to use in the fun stuff!

Thanks,
JF
post #34 of 40
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Originally Posted by tdk6 View Post

Sorry, I see now that those were medium radius turns on the video. But Im pritty sure that if you carve even tighter turns you would use the same movements. Note, carve. Not skidd. Not short turns as in down the fall line bump skiing short turns. My bad for not being more specific. In this posting I will refer to short turns as SL type carved turns on a r=11m ski.

If you turn short, medium and long radius turns on a SL ski its not the same as turning short radius turns on a SL ski, medium radius turns on a all mountain ski and long radius turns on a GS ski. Every ski has its sweet spot and you should be skiing close to that sweet spot if you want to use the ski to its full potential. You need to do a lot of work in order to get the ski turning properly. In a technical sence you will have to change your strategy for how to turn quicker. You will not have time extending into transition like you are doing in your demos in the videos. Im not ranting you or trying to find blanks in your technique just trying to give you some information you might benefit from. This information might be totally irrelevant for your psia certification.

Aareses has a video titled 2 year SRT/MRT/LRT or something like that showing various radius turns. It is in his account. You should be able to find it
post #35 of 40
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Originally Posted by Aareses View Post

I am currently using a 17m radius ski (Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous TI).  It is the shortest and tighest radius ski I have ever been on.  One of my focuses this summer is to get on a 9m to 11m radius ski to discover new sensations.  I have been told by a few people (including Rick Schnellmann) it would help me develop more.


Is that what you are saying TDK6?


There you have it. Go with a pro. Good advice by Rick. I think you will discover a totally new world of skiing.
post #36 of 40
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

newer stuff doesnt have a sweet spot......any turns work out pretty well.

I think skis do have a sweet spot. I cannot make a proper GS race track run on my SL skis and vice versa. If you skidd or drift your turns then there is less difference I agree. But Im no industry expert so I could be worng.
post #37 of 40
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Aareses,

I met you briefly at Sun Valley a few weeks ago, where you gave me the news of your LIII success.  Congratulations!  You are a testiment to what can happen with a positive attitude & focused coaching.  

I don't want to speak for tdk6, but I think that is what he is saying.  I do a clinic for out new instructors on 120cm, 9m skis at the beginning of the season each year.  For those with an open mind, they usually discover sensations they had never imagined.

On the other side of the coin, you should consider also getting on some bigger, fatter, funshape skis & start getting some mileage in the crud, bumps, steeps & powder.  You have developed some great base skills.  Now it's time to begin putting them to use in the fun stuff!

Thanks,
JF
 

Excellent advice here. I try to put our kids on blades at the beginning of each season. 120cm skis would be a very good option for adults. Its a money thing but the ski school is not interested in buy such skis. Also not the ski rental. Ratts.
post #38 of 40

Congratulations for your L3!
 

post #39 of 40

Reading this a bit late, but wanted to say you are an inspiration!  I got on skis for the first time this Feb, and wanted to train seriously this season -- and your example has definitely sold a set of Rick's DVDS :-)  Not to mention just viewing your progression and reading the tips others contributed has made a light bulb go off for me.  Here's to hoping the resorts will be opening in the next week!

 

Congrats!

 

post #40 of 40
Thread Starter 

Jenna,

 

It's great to hear you are getting into the sport and it sounds like you are doing the right things.  Watch those DVDs, get lots of mileage in, post questions here, and work with good instructors in your area.  Most of all, keep it fun!  If I can be of any help on your journey, let me know.

 

Good luck!

 

Aareses

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