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post #31 of 44
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Originally Posted by mudfoot View Post




FWIW, my riding buddy had a top line Specialized with the "brain" suspension set up and dumped it for a Santa Cruz Blurr because he couldn't stand the pedaling bob. He is a lot happier now.

 

There are A Lot of bikes with FSR patents. I think The Brain gimmick is to make up for a poor frame design with some Specialized rigs.


That brain has been out for a while, I test rode one about 7 years ago West Maui Cycles. I remember thinking it was pretty sweet then. But, I didn't know where to ride, and a lot of the testing was off urbanite substances. The owner offered me quite the deal as he was having trouble selling them.

There is a difference between Specialized bikes and frames that use the FSR patent. I do think some of the new Specialized bikes are pretty nice (without La Brain). I still wouldn't buy one.

If the Niner wasn't so expensive to build up (tapered steerer, fancy headsets, etc.), and have the recalls, I would probably get one.

The Outlander is spec'd with XO stuff, C29SSMAX, etc., I can get a pro deal, and it can roll over Moonrocks without a toe touch. : )
post #32 of 44
Starting to see adds for Niners pop up on e-bay and mtbr.com. Turning a small profit!

http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showproduct.php?product=39686&cat=38
post #33 of 44
Thread Starter 
So the seller gets the Rip frame for $999 under his Jet warranty deal, immediately sells it for $1,400 ($400 off retail), and then sits back and waits for his free Jet replacement frame.  Maybe it's time for you to pick up a new Rip Johnny.
post #34 of 44
I think the Niner is a good DESIGN. I think maybe some of my comments are misconscrewed.

I have questions about the quality of Niner welds currently. And, well, that is reason enough not to buy one of their frames for me. Let alone one with no warrenty.

Mudfoot there is a good thread over at mtbr.com. I looked for it again and couldn't find it. It was comparing the Titus Racer-X, Turner Sultan, Ventana El ?, and some other notables. If I find it I'll post it up.

One of the rides I am considering is the Racer X. I'm not particularly in love with the idea of riding a Fuji Outland 29er. Not that its a bad bike but, I am in a very pro-USA build area. (4 retired United auto-workers on my wifes side of the family). Even though most frames are made abroad, there is no doubt where something emblazed with FUJI is made.

Here it is:  http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=513159

Here is another: Read the 4th review from the top. : ) http://www.mtbr.com/cat/bikes/29er/turner/sultandwlink/PRD_425926_1548crx.aspx
Edited by Johnnys Zoo - 9/17/09 at 1:47pm
post #35 of 44
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Originally Posted by Johnnys Zoo View Post

I think the Niner is a good DESIGN. I think maybe some of my comments are misconscrewed.

I have questions about the quality of Niner welds currently. And, well, that is reason enough not to buy one of their frames for me. Let alone one with no warrenty.

Mudfoot there is a good thread over at mtbr.com. I looked for it again and couldn't find it. It was comparing the Titus Racer-X, Turner Sultan, Ventana El ?, and some other notables. If I find it I'll post it up.

One of the rides I am considering is the Racer X. I'm not particularly in love with the idea of riding a Fuji Outland 29er. Not that its a bad bike but, I am in a very pro-USA build area. (4 retired United auto-workers on my wifes side of the family). Even though most frames are made abroad, there is no doubt where something emblazed with FUJI is made.

Here it is:  http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=513159

Here is another: Read the 4th review from the top. : ) http://www.mtbr.com/cat/bikes/29er/turner/sultandwlink/PRD_425926_1548crx.aspx

all of those frame are made abroad.

buy the best, if that american great, if its not then maybe some americans should step up to the task.

The turner Sultan is the only one I would even look at, and yes you know why.
post #36 of 44
Thread Starter 
Johnny:

I looked at the Sultan too, because it is one of the few bikes that comes in my frame size.  I have a buddy that has been riding their 5-spot for about a year and likes it, although he has had a few issues with it.  Turners are nice bikes, but expensive.  I am getting a Rip 9 with the parts I want for $1,000 less than the same set up would cost me for a Turner from a local shop, and I  believe it would be heavier.  MF
post #37 of 44
My Father-in-law said somethingthat was very simple but also deep. " If people want things made in the US, they will have to buy them."

I would like my bikes made in the US. Yes?

I would agree with the mtbr.com poster that stated the Titus Racer X should be on anyones short list, considering the Jet 9.

And Turner, Titus, Ventana, maybe some of the others, are made in the US.

I have a friend with a Titus, I have a Ventana. The welds are so beautiful, it cause me to have spasmodic contractions of my corpus spongiosium! He he...
post #38 of 44
 Check out the Intense Tracer 29. Can't get any more US made than that.
post #39 of 44
Thread Starter 

I'm curious, do you try to spec your bike with all parts from the US too, because that's a lot more money than the frame?

post #40 of 44
 Haha - that's just plain impossible.
post #41 of 44
Thread Starter 
Yeah, it probably is impossible, but there are definitely some American made choices you can make.  I was just wondering if Johnny Zoo only looks at the frame, or tries to spec all the parts with US made stuff as much as possible. Like with frames, most of the "US" parts makers have their stuff manufactured overseas. 

I didn't mean to be snarky, just wanted to make the point that buying a truly US made frame is not even half the issue.
post #42 of 44
 Unless you are going to dig up old Paul's derailleurs and thumb shifters, you will not have US made parts. Is there a US made chain? Tires? I don't think it can be done no matter how hard you try. I do wonder how close you could get though.
post #43 of 44
 You know you want it - 
post #44 of 44

This is getting kind of political.

Well, my last bike is mostly USA stuff.  Either made in US, or US companies. My big goal was to use NO Shimano.

I built up my Ventana with King, Tru-Vativ/Sram/Rock Shox, Stans...I believe the only non-US companies involved are DT swiss and Hope.

One of my Sram chains was made in Portugal. Sram headquarters is in CO, right? So, the Lions share of the money made stays here? I wish Sram stuff was manufactured in the USA also.

 



I know what you are saying about made in the USA. Toyota Camry, Avalon, Tacomas, are partially assembled in WV. Profit goes back to Japan.
A Chevy Aveo is really a Daewoo, some are assembled in Uzbekastan. Profit goes back to the USA.

So, whats made in the USA?


I'm willing to pay more for quality made in USA stuff.
I was being more specific about frames, since we were talking about frames.

But, I am truely saddened to peel off the gilded, made in China stickers off my Karhu's and K2's. I am disgruntled with Fisher, that they can take a frame made in Tiawan, paint it in WI, and say... 'Made in the USA of foreign and domestic components'.

I feel that quality products, truely 'Made in the USA' should be supported.

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