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Short-carve skis for '10 season

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've been skiing for about 17-18 seasons(weeks) and so far i've only been renting skiis.
This year though, i've decided to finally buy my own.

I consider myself a fairly good skiier, i'm 5'9 tall, weigh 145,5 pounds and in pretty decent shape.

I spend most of my time on the slope, and i love doing short-carve turns, sometimes i do venture into the offpist though.

I was looking at the RX8 Fire model and from what i read about it, it seems to fit me pretty well.

What ski's would you recommend me, and what size?

post #2 of 15
I'm sure that others will chime in to help you with your ski decision.  I'm just here to be a douche and tell you that it's actually the '10 ski season.  '09 was last year.   
post #3 of 15
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I'm sure that others will chime in to help you with your ski decision.  I'm just here to be a douche and tell you that it's actually the '10 ski season.  '09 was last year.   
[Abusing Mod powers] What you talking about? [/Abusing Mod powers}, be nice to the new guy. 

If the RX8 lights your fire, go for it. 
post #4 of 15
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[Abusing Mod powers] What you talking about? [/Abusing Mod powers}, be nice to the new guy. 
post #5 of 15
Any RX8 or its descendants would be fine for making short turns.  So would a Head Supershape (regular or chip, just not Magnum and not speed).  I suggest 160 to 165 cm length.
post #6 of 15
This is a very good carver and is popular among many East Coat/Groomer skiers.  If you can get a good deal you should def consider it.  Other possibilities exist.  Head SS as mentioned, but I bet this is a bit more demanding than the RX8.  We don't have a real sense for your ability so it's hard to say.

Also consider:

Blizzard G-Force Sonic and SuperSupersonic

Head Monter 78 (now Peak78) if you want to consider a bit wider for more ff-piste potential.

Many others I'm sure will be suggested.
post #7 of 15
Also consider the Fischer Progressor 8+.  A lot like the RX-8 but with a higher speed limit.

Owned the RX-8 in 170cm and now have the Progressor 8+ in the same length.  Skis feel very similar, but the RX-8 used to get a bit squirrelly at higher speeds, Progressor does not.

Good luck on your search and welcome to Epic!

Mike
post #8 of 15
For short radius skis that are only really used on the groomed what is there to gain by going for skis like the progressors and tigersharks for free skiing rather than just going for a consumer race ski? Non-race stock skis are pretty forgiving and easy to ski and probably have better edge hold.

Just interested having not skied these kinds of skis.
post #9 of 15
The one advantage of the less-than-race-ready skis is that by being easier to flex, they require less force to bend into a turn.  If you are skiing slowly, say on a very small hill, or with friends or family that ski slowly, or in a crowd, you can whip off short radius turns with less effort.   It allows you to feel the ski is reading your mind and turning where you want without much input from you at slower speeds (remembering old Salomon Equipe 10 SC here).

With forces being lower, it's easier to marshal them.

I have a Fischer WC SC in 165 cm.  Most of the time it's great at making short turns, but for a small 200 m vertical hill, I would rather ski an RX8.   The WC SC handles high-g forces better, has more edge grip, is more stable at speed (vibration-wise), but it gives up something at lower speeds.

I suppose the RX8 is more forgiving of mistakes too, but I wouldn't know much about that; my mistakes  are usually of the type that nail me pretty good no matter what I'm skiing .
post #10 of 15
I don't think there's a rule in the ski book that says you can't go off the groom w/ SL race skis.
post #11 of 15
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I don't think there's a rule in the ski book that says you can't go off the groom w/ SL race skis.
 

Your right nuthin' in a book, only common sense stops me!
post #12 of 15
Your right nuthin' in a book, only common sense stops me!
Well I've been know to leave that in the parking lot.
post #13 of 15
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I don't think there's a rule in the ski book that says you can't go off the groom w/ SL race skis.
 

Doing this is pretty common in europe, you see racer kids over here skiing the whole mountain on their race skis quite frequently. I take mine off the groom occasionally if that's what I've got on: are they the best tool? No, but it's not impossible by any means and I'm not sure the progressors, RX's etc. would really be any better either. Interestingly, race skis do OK in crud if it isn't deep, the just carve through it and the stiffness means they don't get deflected.
post #14 of 15
I thought the 170 RX8 I tested worked just fine in what little crud and piled up loose snow I could find.  I thought my 165 WC SCs worked just fine in a 40 cm dump, until I switched them for my 190 cm Machete Gs.  It's not that you can't use race skis off piste; it's just that other skis work so much better off-piste.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thank you moderator :D

I found some RX8 Fire 165 cm for about 300 Euros(including bindings) which seems like a good deal.
I'm still mostly leaning towards these skis, i don't really care that much about the speed, since i ski with a group of friends, for me style > speed, and the RX8 would also be ok for the occasional detour into the offpist.
Also, how important is the bindings?(qualitywise)

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